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You (intentionally?) forgot to include the acts of violence that kicked all of this off: the government abducting, arresting, and deporting our neighbors. There were, and are, many other options available to the government that would not have lead to this escalation & violence.

That... doesn't justify any of those actions.

Its like in France, 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants get pissed off due to their better-studying peers driving bmw around while they work a kebab shop (or their football team loses), so they torch 1000 cars and shops in suburbs.

You get attacked? You either attack back, disperse or do something similar. You don't start attacking other people's lives just to vent off being pissed off.

> That... doesn't justify any of those actions

I didn't claim that it did. I think it's important to recognize the complete chain of escalation here by acknowledging those who performed the first violent acts. Without that first violence, none of this happens.

"Lowering ourselves to Trumps level and lower will show them!"

Said no with a clear head ever.

cough https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_They_Came

'going high' worked so well last time, we should try it again? laughable.

Sternly worded letters and judges issuing orders sure ain't doing shit.

Hmm... as someone who lives in LA... I think your news stream is polluted. There were maybe 100 bad actors. Responding to people in military gear vanishing day labourers and fruit sellers and seamstresses. Bringing in 10,000 National Guard and 1,000 Marines is not an appropriate response.

If local police are unable or unwilling to protect federal agents doing their jobs, bringing in the military is absolutely the right decision. These rioters used hammers to destroy concrete bollards, pelted federal agents with the fragments, and faced no resistance from the LAPD while doing it.

Bringing in the military was necessary.

To some degree, I mean, it's LA.

Somewhere in the 19 million people in the Southland, a car is burnt in anger or celebration every weekend. Lakers parades are famously family unfriendly.

Businesses are robbed daily and violently.

I mean, there was a huge deal about the trains for a while [0] and nothing happened with the LAPD+ for a long time let alone the USMC.

LAPD+ cops are assaulted every week with God knows what.

That's what 19 million people are like. That mass of people sees a lot of low-probability events, by pure math.

Honestly, what's going on is that Donny watches Fox a lot. Fox is a media business, if it bleeds, it leads. Fox also is reeling from the Dominion lawsuits and two competitors barking up their tree. They have to push for ratings. Donny doesn't know this, he just sees what everyone else is seeing on Fox.

Hence this whole autopen thing that no one else outside of the Fox bubble has a clue about.

Donny sees the story, rants about it in front of confused cameras, then Fox has to double down on it and Donny rants again. It's a oroboros of bad research and news junkies.

So with these LA riots (blink and there's another), you get Fox seeing if it bleeds, it leads. Then Donny fritzes on it, then he's sending in the USMC without food or water, because, duh. Then they report on that, and he'll be sending in a whole regiment (5000 marines) by the end of the week, then a battalion (1200 marines, because these words have no meaning to him).

Look, there is no plan with Donny, he's just reacting to whatever he last experienced. It is super clear from all the evidence about the very leaky administration that they are just reacting to things as they come at them. Again, there is no plan. And yes, that is somehow worse than some conspiracy to make the US an autocracy.

[0] https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/14/economy/la-freight-railroad-t...

EDIT: I want to extend this idea about Donny having mashed potato brains a bit further. SInce the whole admin is just reacting to things by overexertion, that means that anyone trying to counter them (and that's like nearly everyone else on Earth) has it made in the shade. You let them swing, then just keep up the pressure after every blow. They crack, we've already seen this in the trade stuff (TACO), in the Greenland/Panama/Canada thing, in the signalgate thing, in the Kilmar thing, etc. All you have to do is just not let go of it. They get bored of it, because Fox's viewers get bored of it, so Fox switches the programming, and so the admin does too. They declare victory, and walk away.

You're right on the money here. One could argue that much of our current administrative "direction" is coming from either a combination of Project 2025 and whatever the current programming is on Fox News.

The project 2025 stuff is pretty much all they have to go on. Literally, they are looking any plan whatsoever, and this was the 'whatsoever'.

If you want to steer the next admin, go grab the $20/mo Claude subscription, work with it for about a month, and make 'Project 2027' out of it. Make sure to me all macho about it too, the more silver screen and 1980s bicep movie images, the better. Use lots of quotes that mean mostly nothing, but sound good. Really, most boomer FB pages are already there. Copy the project 2025 boilerplate formatting.

Then, look, these guys are just like bulls with rings in their nose. They'll google about for about 30 seconds and just go on the first hit there. Make sure your project 2027 is the first hit for the SEO words you think they'll use.

You can put pretty much whatever you want in that. Why? Because no one else is doing this. If you are willing to put up with the smell, you can make a lot of change for the post-midterms admin. These guys are morons, yes, but above that, they are lazy

Good lord what if I feed Claude a diet of Trumpwave

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