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> Lots and lots of drones, flying high over the heads of ICE agents and their enforcement buddies, dispensing joy to all those below

Just document. We need evidence of the individuals at ICE and the National Guard who may be breaking the law so we can, down the road, prosecute them. (Or right now if a Democrat state AG grows a pair.)

Dropping glitter or slime on the National Guard would be incredibly provocative, childish and counterproductive.

>Dropping glitter or slime on the National Guard would be incredibly provocative, childish and counterproductive.

And Flashbangs and Teargas is not?

"LOS ANGELES (AP) — After federal immigration authorities arrested dozens of people across Los Angeles, protesters turned out to demand their release. Police in riot gear responded with tear gas to disperse the demonstrators." https://apnews.com/photo-gallery/immigration-raids-los-angel...

> And Flashbangs and Teargas is not?

I happen to believe law enforcement is acting incredibly provocatively. Possibly to the point of trying to provoke overreaction.

But that's irrelevant. Law enforcement is socially and legally sanctioned to do many things the general population is not.

As if they're not going to take being recorded as provocation on its own. Or they're going to take an off the shelf drone, strap a spent shotgun casing to it with some duct tape, shoot it a few times, and then proclaim "See? They're targeting us with weaponized drones! We need to bring in the military!"

> As if they're not going to take being recorded as provocation on its own

Someone else being an idiot is irrelevant. Getting provoked by unknown substances being dropped on you is reasonable. Getting provoked by a camera is not.

Except they're the ones getting to decide what's reasonable and what isn't. As far as they're concerned, the rules are like points on Whose Line is it Anyway.

Someone else being an idiot is absolutely relevant when that idiot is the one deciding on what the rules are.

> they're the ones getting to decide what's reasonable and what isn't

Nope, ICE agents, National Guardsmen and even the President don’t. Hence the need for documentation.

Documentation ain't going to do much for you when you're shipped off to a black hole of a prison, or tossed out of a helicopter over the ocean, or shot for resisting 'a lawful order to disperse' when you're protesting. So yeah, they are deciding the rules, because if you don't like their rules, and don't want to follow them, pretty soon you'll be finding yourself disappeared or provided with a half dozen new ventilation holes in your head and chest. Maybe, maybe, in some distant happy future, they will be prosecuted for their actions, if there's anyone left to argue your case that is.

> if you don't like their rules, and don't want to follow them, pretty soon you'll be finding yourself disappeared or provided with a half dozen new ventilation holes in your head and chest

Except this isn’t happening. Plenty of people are standing up to the administration, from lawyers to judges to activists and universities and administration. Nobody is helped by this kind of baseless hyperbole.

Um, Ukraine is whole country with the backing of a major economic bloc (or two, if you include US as well as EU).

We are lucky folks are showing up at all. Now you want them to spend thousands if not millions or billions on weaponry? Who would they even buy it from, Anduril? Smuggle it from China?

We're talking about the kind of drones you can 3d print most parts of, not the long-range ones that can carry dozens of pounds. Some 3d printed parts, a handful of small servos, an arduino or raspi and a camera module. Not all that expensive.

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