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Maybe that's why people don't bother targeting Linux. Look at your comment. Why are people so easily offended these days by things that are out here, doing no harm to anyone. Like, you could just hit the back button and go on with your day. Why do you need to be so offended? If this is the sort of stuff that triggers you I can't imagine how your day looks like.

Damn. Didn't expect so much bitterness this morning. What a strange set of "demands" for a pretty decent piece of kit.

I find it interesting when folks criticize software for not being free / open source. There's nothing stopping you from creating the FOSS you are disappointed someone else didn't create - or from investing your own time into improving an existing project. I don't think we need to criticize someone else's choice to go a different path.

We don't _need_ to criticize it, but there's also nothing wrong with expressing the criticism. Maybe I would have found this useful and worth paying for, but I can't without having the source. It's a shame that the potential usefulness of this work is limited in a way that prevents people like me from supporting it.

The project was originally open source. Here's a fork of the original 2021 repo.

https://github.com/gqshell/ExpressiveAnimator

It’s a shame but you also have to be realistic. People have to make a living.

You know, a "made with" blender film just won an Oscar. I bet Blender devs also have to make a living and I doubt they work for free.

Blender is actually a business in spirit (even if not legally) and has very active and aggressive marketing. That is why they are dominating the OSS DCC tool space and get millions in corporate sponsorship.

> very active and aggressive marketing

Like where? The Blender Foundation doesn't do any aggressive marketing...

Blender is amazing and I love it. That doesn’t mean that replicating their success is an easy feat or for everyone.

If it was easy to get the required funding, wouldn’t Synfig be in a position to rake in funds and hire people to improve Synfig?

Got to be realistic. That was one piece of software and it took decades and a team and plenty of free labor to get to where it is. People have to eat daily.

FLOSS devs do eat daily. It's not developed by fasting people.

The vast majority of FLOSS projects are underfunded and we have far more cases of projects that had to shutdown because they lacked funding than projects that were successfully able to fund themselves.

Survivor bias backed examples are not a good argument.

There’s a lot of work behind Blender, and behind it having that infrastructure to pay some devs. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blender_(software)#History

You know, survival bias. For each floss project where its devs can make a decent living just working on that project, I can can name way more where they depend on the free labour/willing of their maintainers.

To be fair, Blender did not start as a FOSS but as a proprietary software.

Just to add a bit more context to this: Blender started as an "in-house" software (studio NeoGeo), written by Ton Roosendaal, in January 1994. In 1998, they founded a company (NaN) that would distribute Blender under a freemium pricing strategy (you would buy keys to unlock more features). But the base software could be downloaded for free. In 2002, that company went bankrupt. And with the help of 250,000 users, they raised enough money to buy back the rights owned by the investors to release Blender under an new licence: the GPL licence. In May of 2002, the Blender Foundation (non-profit) was created.

As opposed to this that seemingly started as foss and no longer is.

What are you talking about? Hundreds of Blender developers did and do work for free.

Just because a movie made with it did well, doesn't mean Blender devs get paid.

Blender dev here. A majority (like 2/3) of the development nowadays happens through the core development team: it's around 30-40 full-time/part-time paid developers. Most are located in the Netherlands. We make an average salary that's slightly higher than the average in that sector here in our country. All of the money comes exclusivly from the Dev Fund (fund.blender.org). It's all donations, no strings attached. We say "thank you" and (if they wish) put the logo on the website.

https://devtalk.blender.org/t/hiring-a-blender-dev/13151

You're not the market

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