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I'm one of those garage hackers, I have a quote from PCBWay, $286 for 20 boards including assembly service. I also got quotes from companies in U.S.

- $2700 from a popular company in bay area - $2000 from another new pcb company.

With tarrifs, my PCBWay order is around $789.

I'm new to PCB Design, I cannot afford to do $2700 mistakes, with PCBWay hardware is more accessible.

Why are you building 20 boards if you are new to PCB design and can't afford mistakes? That's tremendously risky.

Even pros build a couple proto boards for the first run, and sometimes hand assemble them if able, not.... 20?

These tariffs are designed to destroy the American economy and primacy on the world stage.

Pretty much this. Anyone who has paid attention to trump's work knows the goal is to destroy the USA

I've paid attention, and I don't think his goal is to "destroy the USA". His goal is self-enrichment, and side-effects don't matter. He is a master at promising the world, and then deflecting blame when he doesn't deliver, and yet the people love him anyway. It is very easy to destroy something under those circumstances without having the goal of destruction. See Hanlon's Razor.

I prefer the corollary: Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from malice.

At this point, whether it's stupidity, or others taking advantage of that stupidity to induce malicious actions. It doesn't really matter and they should be regarded as malicious and stopped.

There is a sense in which wilful ignorance IS malicious. Whether the fruits of that ignorance are therefore malicious is another question. I'm not a lawyer, but I know that they make a clear distinction between intent and ignorance. That is how, in fact, ignorance (or its appearance), becomes a strength. You cannot lie if you don't know. Even better is when you display ignorance but then somehow also have millions of people convinced they can read between the lines that you are not ignorant. "The best way to lie is to tell the truth and not be believed," as Twain once said.

I agree with what you’re saying here, but I think it’s important to note that as much as Mr. Trump is convinced he is in charge, there are quite obviously people pulling his strings. He’s a useful tool for more powerful people to wield, and their goals loosely align.

> If you don't like it: learn to wire wrap

Actually I know how to wire wrap. I last did it 40 years ago. Technology's moved on.

> In case it wasn't completely clear: stop sending the Chinese money

This is the same thing I’m working to sell people on, only in regards to the US. Working hard to get them to dump US software products and services.

Fingers crossed!

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