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There isn't proof that this terrorist attack was directed by Pakistan. The terrorists themselves haven't been caught. India also supports terrorists in Pakistan (like the BLA who took hostages on a train a few months back), allegedly.

There's no morally superior actor here, unfortunately.

EDIT: There are many other strange things about the parent comment like why are you upset about the word "militant" instead of "terrorist"? They are functionally synonyms. What militant group isn't a terrorist group? And why is it opposite calling the BJP Hindu nationalist? It is a term they themselves coined and use to describe themselves??

EDIT 2: the original commenter is using a very cleverly edited clip from a different time period to support his claims. But watch the full clip and judge for yourselves. He is clearly referring to training the Afghan Mujahideen 3 decades ago, who the US also supported in the Soviet-Afghan War: https://youtube.com/shorts/lkO8fR4vlgA

> There isn't proof that this terrorist attack was directed by Pakistan

Their defense minister admitted to it a few days ago to a Western Media channel.

Which media outlet? This is a big claim given even after these attacks the Pakistani government claims it didn't.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/WLwHK_22pm0

It is hard to figure out what he is saying in that clip; it doesn't have the context that explains what he was actually referring to and the clip jumps in a way suggesting that part of his response was elided.

feel free to look up the full interview and get the context right.

He's linking a source specifically so that other people don't have to do that. If we have to go searching for our own sources there wasn't any point submitting the comment; the idea is to look at what was linked and talk about it.

I see. If you are not satisfied with the shared source or think the video is edited to project a certain kind of perspective with ulterior motive, feel free to look further into it before completely discarding it was what I meant. searching Yalda Hakim, Khawaja Asif full interview might point you in the right direction. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ir8pJbKE37U

And with the benefit of more context it is pretty clear he wasn't admitting to anything - the interview started with him condemning terrorism and the quotes in question was more him pointing out [0] that everyone has been funding terrorist groups in his part of the world and he thinks Pakistan has suffered for it.

Pakistan might be involved in this one, they might not be. I don't know. But that clip isn't evidence either way. He's quite insistent that Pakistan wasn't involved in the topical attacks. And indeed that the attacks may not have happened at all. He can't be admitting responsibility to something that he doesn't believe has happened done by groups he claims don't exist.

[0] Add some allowance for English apparently not being his native language - he was reiterating points from earlier in the interview.

>He's quite insistent that Pakistan wasn't involved in the topical attacks.

Yes, just like how Pakistan was insistent about their involvement in sheltering Bin Laden. I don't understand why you expect any representative of a nation to confess explicitly to their crimes themselves but things like that just don't happen. Confession to their indirect involvement is the leading clue to majority of their actions and further investigation that will never be disclosed to public can only dig the truth.

>And indeed that the attacks may not have happened at all

that is very funny. That attack did happen and the attackers did send a message mentioning the name "Modi" to one of the survivors they spared. The tourists were stripped first to verify if they're circumcised and were shot immediately thereafter. I won't share further details but I ensure you, it really did happen and feel free to discard this as misinformation or dig further into it yourself.

You're replying to a thread that started with "the defence ministry admitted".

So the expectation here is that in the video he admits that, and he does not.

Nobody expected that to be true, that was the whole point.

I would encourage you to be very skeptical when you hear inflammatory things with vague details like this. If it were true, wouldn’t you have heard which Western media channel it was?

its not a Western media channel. Its NDTV https://www.youtube.com/shorts/WLwHK_22pm0

Neither person in this clip claims or admits that Pakistan directed the 22 April terrorist attack.

Why would they? Even the USA never admits their direct involvement straight away so its delusional of you to be expecting something like that. If Pakistan is the kind of nation to confess, peace would have been established long back.

It sounds like you agree with me that the defense minister did not say what the original commenter claimed he said, so I’m not sure what you’re calling me delusional about.

I mean, Pakistan denies sheltering Bin Laden till date so its expected of them to deny any and all of their involvement officially.

I'm sorry if I was rude by using the term delusional but given their behavior, that is what it seemed like to me to expect a confession from them.

I don't think that's true, but either way, do you agree at least that the same accusation can be plausibly levied against India's support for terrorist outfits in Pakistan?

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/WLwHK_22pm0

No, not at all really.

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