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It's so jarring to get these kinds of message, especially for compliance with EU directives, because it's so obviously designed to look un-Apple-like which triggers some sort of malware or scam heuristic without the typical nice Apple presentation.

Ironically it ends up getting flagged as some deliberate Apple malicious compliance BS which just sours you on the whole iOS experience.

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I'm not even sure how "external website" is malicious compliance. Yes, I know the intention is to sound scary. But external website is the correct, neutral term which means... external website.

To you and me, sure. On the other hand, I wonder if is intended to scare people who like and want the safety of the apple ecosystem and perceive everything as outside of it as dark web. Come to think of it, that is kinda how I see dark web.. is there a scarier place on line than that?

I think it would be easy to argue that the term "external website" is neutral rather than scary sounding, if not for actual chat logs in evidence saying "let's use this term because it's scary sounding".

It kind of surprises me that people working in that environment haven't been better trained about what not to write. I have zero legal background, but even twenty years ago at my very first corporate job I received a training module about legal discovery and the consequences of poorly worded emails -- and that was at a company that I genuinely believe was trying to follow the law in good faith, and was simply worried about liability due to misperception of careless language.

For a team specifically working on a legal compliance project, I am with the poster above that mentioned legal teams providing oversite. If nothing else, every one of these chats should have had a lawyer logged in to provide a mental reminder to participants that the conversation really isn't private.

You're posting on HN and you think regular websites are the "dark web"? Do you think HN is the dark web?

Hm. Maybe I did not phrase it correctly. I was presenting two perspectives: one of a user, who thinks net outside walled garden is dangerous and user who regularly traverses non-walled garden that the first user perceives as dark net. That was followed by: is there a place darker than dark net:D

Apologies, there are times I do not express myself as clearly as I would want to.

Why does it need to be labeled at all? Is opening netflix.com while in the Netflix app really an external website?

Because non-tech people are more susceptible to phishing attempts. It’s obvious to you or I, but my grandma needs all the help she can get to know whether she’s still in the app or an external website when she’s handing over her credentials.

So now we're assuming that the Netflix app does not know which domain it considers safe?

Think of an app that allows user generated content

There is already the ability to establish "associated domains" for the apps which establishes a special relationship between them.

What does external mean here? Why are Apple services not external?

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