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Logic doesn't care about your feelings or mine on the topic; it simply is.
I can come up with one for you something along the lines of the government, providing sizable upfront pavements or stipends to families that have kids so having kids is an immediate financial gain. I don’t think most economies can sustain that though.
They have not reached their position through reason, so reason cannot be used to dislodge them from it. Entertaining their chauvinism as if it merits rational debate only legitimises their position by pretending it is worthy of serious consideration. It is not. It should be called what it is: shameful.
Frankly, I am shocked that someone would publish such views under their real name. It suggests they may not fully grasp the gravity of what they have said. Are they aware that such comments render them unemployable in much of the developed world? That they risk being rightly shunned by the vast majority of people?
The sexism of HN is astounding sometimes, here we have men politely debating whether women deserve rights. Everytime women are brought up on HN I am only disappointed further.
If GP had said that men deserved to be enslaved no one would think this was something deserving of a thought-out rebuttal, they would be told to leave. But it's fine when women are in the firing line!
Genuinely despicable.
As a thought experiment: If the economic and social burdens are what are preventing South Korean women from choosing to have children, why don’t we instead remove autonomy from men? We could provide women with universal, generous incomes, give them priority over men in all areas of life, and place them in charge of all family and household decisions. Men could be assigned the responsibility for all undesirable work, both inside and outside the home, to maximise women’s freedom and security when choosing whether to have children.
If that course of action seems absurd to you - but Nathan’s proposal to strip women of their rights seems “logical” - then your concern isn’t really about saving South Korea, or humanity, or civilisation. It’s just sexism and misogyny, pretending to be pragmatism.