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The comics look pretty Miyazaki-inspired, like all of the comics I've seen lately. I've kinda started to dislike this look because it's _everywhere_ that low-effort comics are these days.

Maybe worth trying to train a better style for this. This is probably something where you could put a little effort in up-front (ie: using a model that's for segmentation to get outlines, using some classic image-processing for boundary detection) and then have AI touch it up a little more lightly and a less of the "default" style.

Also, do you have AI images for the "real world" samples on the left? They have a certain "I don't exactly know what, but it's creeping me out" vibe.

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It doesn't look particularly Miyazaki style to me; it's just a generic cartoon style.

I think the Ghiblipocalypse has gotten people on edge.

OP confirmed that their prompt includes a directive for Ghiblification. Given that Miyazaki is known to hate GenAI I really can't condone... I mean there's nothing anyone can do about it but it's just kind of sad.

>Given that Miyazaki is known to hate GenAI I really can't condone...

Miyazaki also said (in response to the Charlie Hebdo murders): "For me, I think it's a mistake to make caricatures of what different cultures worship. It's a good idea to stop doing that." I still love the man and his work, but he's not some infallible authority on what is and isn't appropriate in art.

Seems like a perfectly reasonable value statement. I am inferring that you see that as a call to censorship, but unless there's some additional context here that suggests that, I don't think that's the case.

> Given that Miyazaki is known to hate GenAI I really can't condone

Not that I wouldn't similarly expect it from Miyazaki in terms of general generative art but the actual source of all the articles/memes about his quote point to a 2016 video where he's being demo'd a disturbing 3D simulation of an oily looking human figure crawling on the ground by its head while the dev explains to Miyazaki and others that 'it feels no pain so it learned to move by its head' and it could be used for horror games.

It's then that Miyazaki expresses the 'insult to life itself' quote and explains the devs have no idea what human pain is. Makes one wonder how the devs thought the reaction would be any different tbh.

Edit: reading that he clarified in an interview[1] a couple years later that his distaste was due to believing the dev was aiming at humorizing such body contortions of realistic humans which he took issue with.

[1] https://realsound.jp/tech/2018/10/post-270755.html

Hm! Thanks for the fact check. I really do want to know what Miyazaki actually thinks of the Ghiblification thing at present.

Yeah can we stop spreading this misinformation. His quote was in reference to grotesque nature of something he saw.

> Miyazaki was shown an AI-generated character. The character was a scary monster that used its head as a leg because it couldn’t feel pain. The person presenting it said its movements could be used in making a zombie video game.

To which he stated:

> Every morning, not in recent days, I see my friend who has a disability. It’s so hard for him just to do a high five; his arm with stiff muscle can’t reach out to my hand. Now, thinking of him, I can’t watch this stuff and find it interesting. Whoever creates this stuff has no idea what pain is. I’m utterly disgusted. If you really want to make creepy stuff, you can go ahead and do it. I would never wish to incorporate this technology into my work at all. I strongly feel that this is an insult to life itself.

The author has since listed the prompt elsewhere in the comments. It includes, "The drawing is in a simple Studio Ghibli portrait style."

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43801189

there's 4 sample pages, and the one with the cat is the only one that is not Ghibli-style.

Here's some generic cartoon styles to look at: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/5f/04/ef/5f04ef77ce3beb272a61...

That's probably the only info-graphic I've ever seen that's worth a damn.

This is so interesting - I could add some of these as options.

Jesus Christ

It absolutely resembles the current Miyazaka-esque OpenAI image trend that’s been going on.

This has zero resemblance to Miyazaki’s style. (And I say that as someone who isn’t a fan of this idea at all.)

Hard disagree. Sample #2 is totally the Miyazaki-vibe that is everywhere in OpenAI-generated comics. https://clevercoloringbook.com/samples/2_cartoon.png

The cartoon owl at the top has a different vibe and would probably work for the comics as well.

After seeing this example, I think this is the elevator pitch: ”We take your personal highlights and make them as generic and impersonal as possible.”

It's nothing like Ghibli, you are overthinking this.

You think that the model is not properly producing the style it was prompted for in the below prompt? I don't see other artists or styles mentioned.

> Make this a page in a colouring book. The drawing is in a simple Studio Ghibli portrait style. Bleed all the way to the edges. Background colour is #ffffff and lines are bold and #000000. There is no shading or crossthatching.

I'm gonna agree with the above comment - #2 looks like a Japanese-style cartoon (for better or worse).

OP confirmed their prompt explicitly asks for a studio ghibli style

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