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The man in question wasn’t here illegally. If there’s no due process of any kind to determine legal status it doesn’t matter anyway.

His legal status was unambiguously deportable. To anywhere but el salvador. An administration with half a brain would have just brought the dude back for 5 seconds and rerouted him to the border on the Guatemala side with a 'walk over there to go home' for some sort of miniscule favor to Guatemala and mission accomplished.

I just checked the statute and the 2019 ruling and was surprised to discover that you are correct.

2019 Ruling: https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69777799/1/1/abrego-gar... Referenced statute: https://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/eoir/legacy/2014... Statutes on where an alien may be deported to: https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=granuleid:USC-prelim...

This is such an odd hill to die on.

The dude at one point at least a wife abusing gang member, and indisputably an here illegally when he was given deportation orders he ignored.

I get that orange man is bad and must be opposed at all costs and conditions… but seriously, this is so strange that people are willing to go to bat for this guy.

I’m not joking at all, TDS might be real.

If the president doesn't abide by the courts that's a constitutional crisis, a fundamental problem. Maybe this one instance isn't enough to say that the Trump admin won't abide by the courts, but it's a start. Immigration is not the issue either. It's about the 3 equal branches of government and how one branch is trying to discredit the other. The issue isn't about public perception. The issue is about how the US government will function if the constitution is ignored by the Executive branch.

> Immigration is not the issue either. It's about the 3 equal branches of government and how one branch is trying to discredit the other.

Which branch is guilty of this? It’s far more frequent for a rogue district judge fo overstep its authority, is it not? They seem to get reversed quite often.

The way things work is that if the judge oversteps you appeal, but you are still bound by the ruling unless higher court overrides it.

You can't just say you don't like the ruling and ignore it.

Exactly. And just because it's not a perfect system doesn't mean it's not a good system.

It's the best system that has ever existed.

The executive.

The admin's ever increasing desperate shrillness is making somewhat of a standoff. He's gone from a gang member to a human-smuggling terrorist gang leader real fast. While also being an apprentice steelworker, supporting his wife & her kids from a previous marriage?

The admin is absolutely over the top with lies deceit & no good. Unwilling to be at all reasonable at any point. They are desperate to make sure no one ever has a chance to make them look like the clown car full of incompetents with no one but syccophantic pathetic mouthy yes men that they are.

But the admin is destined to eat shit again and again. You can't just disappear people cleanly & conveniently; even sending them into an awful concentration camp where no one can hear from them ever won't hide the lies & insanity these monsters spew.

There is 0% chance in my mind that they would dig in like this unless the guy is dead, bukele is demanding a ransom to fix it, or something really bad happened there. There is no rational reason for the administration to endure this, especially since they can easily just blame the return on the bleeding heart judges.

The admin demonstrates very little rational reason. Demanding a purge of American history, banning words from research, insisting private colleges control student speech, end so called DEI programs, and demanding to install their own crony shits in the faculty... The list goes on and on with madness that is beyond reason.

The reason to be a pig headed totalitarian mind-controlling gaslighting bully over this particular man is because being a bully requires putting on a strong front, requires avoiding or besting challenges. Alas, this admin is a bully staring down the Constitution and all America.

> There is no rational reason for the administration to endure this

Endure? They caused this. The reason is because they don't think that enough people will care about the fate of one foreigner to hold Trump accountable. He's counting on the people not understanding or caring at all about the rule of law, and he may be right. Plenty of commenters here don't.

The Trump admin doesn't admit when they are wrong.

They already admitted in black and white in court to judge Xinus they were wrong. They're refusing to fix it. Why admit you're wrong but refuse to take a simple action to fix it unless it can't be fixed? Literally all they have to do is bring him back and refulfill the deportation by dropping him in some barren desert in Somalia, anywhere but taking him to the one place they couldn't.

And that's why they fired that attorney. Good authoritarian leaders don't admit when they are wrong.

Maybe they want this fight. They want it to go to the Supreme Court. A favorable ruling will unlock alot of doors.

And ignoring an unfavorable one with no consequences will open even more doors.

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