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It existed before widespread association with Apu.

Fren, in a certain context, is a 4channer shibboleth. But you are overstating it a lot here.

If someone joins your community and starts posting green frog comics and calls people fren a lot, there's a good chance they're doing the shibboleth you described. Outside of that context, I don't think it's often a racist term.

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Even with frogs and green text, it may be a shibboleth for using 4chan (frogs alone wouldn't be, they have proliferated on discord and twitch), but even then it's not a racist term.

Please look at posts from the now defunct "frenworld" subreddit.

A certain crowd has absolutely coopted it as a racist term.

That doesn't mean every usage of it is racist, of course.

An obscure subreddit which most users of the word have never heard of? Get a grip.

You are staring at a prompt that uses Akashic and fren for specific statistical attacks based on relatively small volumes of material using these terms and saying that anyone who thinks there was a reason to use them is out of touch? The prompt creator was a red state hari Krishna who didn't like spell check and this would work in a rewording we all understand?

A grip on what, exactly? It's an obscure racist meme.

I'm not saying common usage of the phrase is racist. Just that there is a small contingent of people that do use it as a racist shibboleth.

Fren isn't obscure, you're out of touch and paranoid to boot. The people who use it in some racist sense are the obscure minority.

>The people who use it in some racist sense are the obscure minority.

That's exactly what I'm saying. There are people that use it as a racist shibboleth, but they are very much an obscure minority.

An LLM is applying a statistical model.. If 4chan has fren with right wing rhetoric in hundreds of thousands of threads and other sites like HN use these only in occasional discussions of 4chan, you are hinting an LLM to generate content like a right wing diatribe.

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