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Orange man is openly defying a SCOTUS order (a 9-0 one at that) and disappearing people to El Salvador without due process.

He is bad. There's no way around it anymore.

Agree with your conclusion but the SCOTUS order was much softer than that, slapping the lower court's terminology while passing the enforcement burden back down (and all but ensuring another trip upwards).

Is it possible that Elon and Orange man have made mistakes? Even pretty bad mistakes?

Is it possible there could be "objective" facts about these mistakes that make Elon and Orange man look bad, even when reported fairly?

Is it possible the New York Times could be reporting on these facts?

Is that even possible? Are there any worlds you could conceive of where this is the case?

>When reported fairly

This is where you will run into problems in convincing people because reporting is never fair.

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