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> Adobe is the one major company trying to be ethical with its AI training data and no one seems to even care.

It's sad that it's funny that you think Adobe is motivated by ethical consideration.

They don't have to be motivated by ethics. I'm fine with them grudgingly doing ethical things because their customer base is all artists, many of whom would look for an alternative product.

You are fine with it, of course, because you're reasonable. But OP's claim was that Adobe is "trying to be ethical with its AI training data and no one seems to even care" as if we're meant to give special consideration to a company for doing the only economically sensible thing when most of its customers are artists.

The great thing about loudly painting Adobe with the brush of "ethical AI training" (regardless of why they're doing it) is that the backlash will exponentially bigger if/when they do something that betrays that label. Potentially big enough to make them reverse course. It's not much, but it's something.

You should be. Otherwise, you're showing Adobe and other companies that ethical training is pointless, and isn't economically sensible after all.

Where did the poster say they think Adobe is motivated by that? They said Adobe is operating that way.

Probably want to look good to their customer base - artists

A strawman argument so you can condescendingly and snarkily lecture someone? I can see you were among those mouthing off at Adobe on Bluesky.

“Mouthing off” is always uttered by someone with an undeserved sense of authority over the other party, like a mall cop yelling at a teenager for skateboarding

Or that generative AI is ethical at all

It's funny pg once compared hackers with painters, but given how people abuse crypto and generative AI, is seems hackers have more in common with thieves and robbers.

Hollywood was right all along then about hackers being outlaws, then. Hacker News must be the very heart of the Dark Web (where “dark” is short for late-stage capitalism).

> hackers being outlaws

That gives them too much credit. "Outlaws" are folk heroes. Robin Hood was an outlaw, Bonnie and Clyde were outlaws. Luigi is an outlaw.

Nobody's going to be telling fables about the exploits of Sam Altman.

AI could do it. Seems a good use of it.

What exactly is unethical about generative AI, per se?

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