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Jetbrains still likes to gaslight you and say you are wrong about bugs or features.

Recent example the removal of the commit modal.

The whole New UI debacle really set the tone and expectations and I don't see them changing. They seem like a different company these days? Maybe I didn't really notice in the past.

For me it was when they were copying Adobe UIs and removed colors from icons because "it was distracting".

Nowadays they copy Vs code instead.

JetBrains is dead within 5 years unless they can get their AI game figured out (which they’re not).

Don’t get me wrong, I love JetBrains products. However, there value has been almost exclusively in QoL for dev. AI is drastically cutting the need for that.

The jetbrains model is every new release fixes that one critical bug that's killing you, and adds 2 new critical bugs that will drive you mad. I eventually got fed up and jumped off that train.

Hmm, I’ve pretty much never experienced a bug in JetBrains products.

They’re one of the few products that just amazes me with how robust it is. Often, it will tell me I have issues before I even know about them (e.g my runtime is incorrect) and offer 1-click fixes.

Not really sure what you guys are talking about. I've been using Rider for years and it's been great. I'm using the new UI and I have no problems with commits or anything else.

Recently joined a new team where I have to use VS because we have to work through a remote desktop where I can't install new stuff without a lengthy process, and having used VS for a while now it's so much worse. I miss Rider practically every second I'm writing code. There is nothing that I need that VS does better, it's either the same or usually worse for everything I do.

I hope I'll get a bit more used to it over time but so far I hate it. Feels like it's significantly reducing my velocity compared to Rider.

Where to? There's nothing even remotely comparable for many tech stacks. I've been looking for alternatives for many years (also being fed up with their disregard for bugs and performance), but there are none (expect for proper VS for Windows-first C++/C#).

Sadly, I just accepted having worse productivity. I didn't really have a choice, their bugs were actively breaking my workflow, like causing builds to fail. It definitely made me more frustrated and less productive on a day-to-day basis.

Eclipse and Netbeans for Java, QtCreator for C and C++ cross-platform, and VS if on Windows.

If it really must be, VSCode for everything else.

I never was a JetBrains fan, especially given the Android Studio experience, glad that is no longer a concern.

Netbeans is not for real development. Sorry, I love Netbeans. I grew up using it. It just doesn't have good support for real world Java development. As for Eclipse, I'll use notepad over that any day. I've been programming in Java since highschool, 20+ years ago.

IntelliJ is the best there is for Java, warts and all.

How do you do real world JNI development with IntelliJ, including cross language debugging and profiling?

Quite curious of the answer in such great IDE.

I just accepted I wasn’t going to find anything comparable, and just have to bite the bullet and accept software that has way less features, but at least consistently works, and doesn’t randomly decide to run at 800% CPU when a single file changes.

Now on team Zed. We’ll see how long that is good before it enshittifies too. I’m not sure if I should be happy they’re still not charging me for it.

To be fair it seems to average 1:1 with some surge and recede.

What when is this going to be finally removed? I'm still reverting back to the old dialog on every machine.

In the next release currently in beta, but they relented to move it to an unsupported plugin. Not sure if the idea.properties setting which still works will be removed.

https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/IJPL-177161/Modal-commi...

> Jetbrains still likes to gaslight you and say you are wrong about bugs or features.

They learned from the best: Microsoft.

Microsoft cannot fix bugs because it's "engineers" are busy rounding corners in UI elements.

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