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very funny, needed this laugh tonite

Extensively debunked; please stop spreading misinformation.

> Extensively debunked;

Didn't zuck literally say that? How's that debunked?

Anti-democrat journalists were given extensive access by Musk to internal files at Twitter and the best they could come up with is finding that the Biden campaign was sending emails with links to posts they believed were against Twitter terms of service, and Twitter employees then checked the posts, discussed internally, and usually agreed they should take those down. Some of the examples of tweets taken down by this process by the anti-Biden journalist were investigated by others and found to be pictures of Biden's son naked from his laptop. And the Trump presidency was also sending similar reports doing with the same results.

So the worse that Musk's personally selected journalists could find was a special process that political figures from both parties had where their abuse reports were getting prioritized.

It was a fair bit more than that. From the left-leaning guardian

> The most worrying issue the Twitter Files have exposed is the level of contact between the social media company and state security organisations. The FBI regularly holds meetings with Twitter executives, pressuring them to take action against “misinformation”, even when this amounted to little more than a satirical tweet, and demanding the personal data of users.

Take note of the "pressuring", in line with what was reported by Zuck.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jan/01/the-tw...

I’d recommend reading the source claim. Those “FBI meetings” were an email asking if Twitter would reconsider allowing their commercial data provider to access the bulk firehose feed:

https://x.com/shellenberger/status/1604888013422485505

Whether or not you think that’s reasonable from a surveillance perspective it’s nothing even remotely like the “state-sponsored media” claim.

this won’t help with people who comment “did you hear what zuck said…” :)

I'm talking about zuck and meta's products.

edit since I can't reply:

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> It was state-sponsored media when the Biden administration colluded with Twitter and Facebook to censor Americans. reply

> debunked

> didn't zuck literally say that

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It's so sad that people want their take to be correct that they can't even follow a thread 2 ideas deep...

You should probably have clarified this when you originally replied to a comment about X, on a thread about X, on a post about X.

wait till january of 2029 and see what zuck will say about trump. or see what he said in 2021… zuck etc will suck dick to whomever is at the helm. come 2029 he’ll re-introduce gender menu with 365 options so we can switch gender each day of the year and will proclaim that 99% of new hires will be “DEI” hires to beat Trump administration previous record of “98% DEI hires” (and rising)…

Oh, I have no doubts about that. But that's not what missinformation is, IMO. You and I have no way of knowing if what zuck said in that instance is true or not, like a million other things CEOs say. You can't "trust" them when it suits your narative, but say it's missinformation when it doesn't.

Isn't that actually the point? Megacorps like Zuck's are beholden to the government to not break them up or pass laws they don't like, so they bend the knee whenever it's users or free speech taking the hit. Evidence of this not happening would be a non-corrupt government that breaks up the companies or repeals the laws that prop up their market dominance instead of every administration taking them up on the quid pro quo.

To prevent this you need social media to not have central gatekeepers in a position to censor things to begin with.

which is only possible with platforms like bluesky/mastodon/… which are decentralized but of course they have their own issues… I deleted all my social media accounts once I realized that nothing good can come from it and it is one of the roots of current insanity that is our society (especially USA but it is spreading…)

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