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From a YouTube comment:

> please don't hype NTSYNC. yes it has better compatibility than ESYNC and FSYNC, yes it's marginally faster in selected title. The phoronix article reports benchmarks with WINESYNC vs NTSYNC, the gains are there only if you were not already running FSYNC (on by default in most titles running under proton).

> By overhyping features they ultimately end up underdelivering because people expect insane gains that were never there to begin with.

Surely we can do better than YouTube comments?

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That is a question of source. If you read the article on GoL instead ( https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2025/03/linux-kernel-6-14-out-... ) you would have already read that:

> For Valve's Proton however, don't go expecting much here with ntsync. As Valve developer Pierre-Loup Griffais replied to a user on Bluesky to note:

> We already include fsync, which should be as fast or faster as ntsync. We developed ntsync as a general solution that'd be acceptable in upstream Wine, but there's no urgency in including it in the Deck / SteamOS kernel.

That's odd. Why would wine not accept improvements using fsync from Proton?

https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50281#c6

One exciting aspect of NTSYNC is that it could get into wine upstream. FSYNC is only available in Proton and not in upstream wine, mainly because it is not fully conformant, i.e. it doesn't behave exactly like its Windows counterpart does. But NTSYNC doesn't have this problem.

YouTube comments have lots of smart people in them, sometimes.

That can be simplified by the topic and presentation. Is the content trying to educate, be entertaining or both. Is the topic extremely niche then you will find like minded people with suggestions and discussions.

Hype is not about better performance but about upstream support. It's valuable.

If you've been anywhere around linux gaming circles for the past 6-8ish months, you've seen nothing but people not understanding the benchmarks hype NTSYNC. Everyone trying to set appropriate expectations is pretty quickly silenced in whatever manner the platform allows (downvote, etc)

Must be some wrong circles. From what I've seen, it's mostly well known that ntsync is comparable to existing solutions like esync / fsync.

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