And it feels like many US citizens completely ignore that they are on the side of the bullies, and just go full patriotism: "Oh, they want to boycott us? We will boycott them, too, they'll see!". Sure, you can do that, but don't forget that your country is the bully.
As with Chinese manufacturing, the US may find it harder than it expects. Especially as the trade surplus includes a lot of pharmaceuticals and B2B products.
Apart from the president, intent on starting a trade war?
US imports are going to be made more expensive because of tit-for-tat tariffs, so of course people are starting to look around elsewhere for alternatives.
What did you expect would happen when your government starts down the road of isolationist policies?
My guess is that some things (wars - physical or economical) make things worse for everybody - to different degrees - history will tell.
It's totally impossible to understand, except with some hollywoodest scenario. But the fact that some american support this is borderline crazy.
Many folks are rising up, question is how long, and how hard it is going to get, will they push the army into the population, for example.
This is what I am saying: superficial emotional reactions played by well-crafted propaganda and people confuse that with "reality".
This isn't a uniquely American phenomenon but Republicans have spent decades fermenting "post-factual" propaganda and a culture of deliberate ignorance to an extent that is difficult to compare. In Germany we've only really seen anything of this level during COVID (this was when Germany became the country with the largest QAnon movement outside the US) although of course media like the Springer news publishing outlets have also been pushing deliberate misinformation for half a century - it just didn't really connect to a political movement until relatively recently. Prior to the Ukraine invention and the sanctions on Russia, a lot of this in Europe also seems to have had close ties to Russia - either through direct financial support or through Russian "alternative news" channels like Sputnik and RT.
It's also worth remembering that not all Americans support Trump's policies and most don't support all of them. Most that do express unconditional support don't want to talk about the policies they don't like or outright deny them. I've seen Trump supporters in the same thread argue that there won't be a recession, and that a recession is good and necessary actually - but never with each other, always only attacking their shared outside enemy. It's not really about the politics for them, it's about allegiance and loyalty. But these are not the majority of people who voted for him - they're just the most dedicated ones.
Here are a few examples:
- The expulsion of the English from Havana in the 18th century
- The European inquisitions, and while we are at it, some elements of faith in general.
- Hitler's fascism (Hitler was elected)
- Fidel Castro's Cuba
- North Korea
- Italy's demographic problem
- Japan's demographic problem
... and so on. In all cases, you need the cold clarity of hindsight and a lot of detachment to see that people were acting foolishly. But during the time when the events are ensuing, stoked passions and outright manipulation prevent people from acting rationally. It's not like people act irrationally because they want to. It's simply too difficult to accept the right information, since each argument opposed to one's own beliefs is interpreted as a move from the enemy group.
This is the world we live in.
He wasn't elected. By the time he became chancellor his party was losing ground and couldn't form the government. Under pressure of the rich Hitler was appointed chancellor (not elected) because communists/socialists/unionists were bad for business and they were gaining ground.
Side note: in a way Trump has it much easier because he can already govern with executive orders without requiring a 2/3 majority from the Congress...
The more interesting thing is not the what but the why.
In a full blown trade war I would much rather be in Europe than see my money going to the oligarchy in the US.
edit: aha, misread the comment, i read it as, roughly: "europeans would not like it if americans start looking at the european alternatives", not "looking at alternatives to european products" - yes, i agree, Europeans would not like that.
That said, automotive companies have way too much influence on European (and especially German) politics. While the consequences of these companies failing or shrinking would undoubtedly be bad, the upside is that this might reduce their influence too. Not saying one would outweigh the other.
Had a hard time parsing that comment as well..
But the services thing cuts both ways and afaik Europe uses more US services than vice versa in terms of revenue.
On top of that they're luxury goods, their bought for their prestige. Barely anyone uses AWS for such reasons. Good luck convincing the wealthy in the US that some new US brand is a good replacement for their Louis Vuitton bags, Moët champagne and Bulgari watches.
The US has lots of ultra-luxury services, but very little such manufacturing.
Depends how far the culture war goes.
A bit less globalism in terms of shipping consumer products across the world isn't such a bad thing. Continents becoming more self sustainable and consuming the products they can produce, only importing those things that it really needs. Advocados are not mandatory in our diet.
The current trade war is initiated by the US, why it is interesting how EU consumers react to that.
This is akin to me hitting you in the face, then you hitting me back - and then I could ponder how you would feel about being hit in the face and how that could teach you a lesson - well, I just saw what happens when I hit you in the face.
While I don't approve, didn't the EU charge the US tariffs that were twice as high as what the US charged the EU?
To summarize, EU countries levied 1.49 % on average on imports in 2021, the US levied 1.48 % on average. Probably there are singular items that diverge from this average.
I'm afraid i'll need the exact sections of the trade agreement document that stipulates these tariffs so that I can compare myself. Otherwise this is hearsay for me.
But I stand corrected if there are some good sources.