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11 is almost way more consistent in its UI. I'd even go as far as to say it's better than 7's.

They can pry my vertical taskbar from my cold dead hands

If you're ever forced to use W11, ExplorerPatcher will let you rollback the taskbar to windows 10 and move it to the sides.

https://github.com/valinet/ExplorerPatcher

TIL you can't move it to the sides any more in Windows 11, wild. Just one more reason for me to stay on Windows 10 no matter the forced-obsolescence schedule.

I'm pretty old now; if I knew who made that decision and that they were coming to my country, I'd flip a coin on the risk of prison time for punching them unconscious.

Regarding missing features: Is anyone around here who has found an alternative to the original “quick launch toolbar”?

I mean the ‘real’ one which was introduced in Windows 95 - up to Windows 8 (IIRC), which could be separated from the Taskbar and be docked at any side of the desktop, horizontally or vertically, and could also be stacked in both directions.

Honestly I'm surprised MS hasn't done more with the great dockable interface UI tech they built for for Visual Studio a few decades ago, and also gradually adopted by Adobe Photoshop and every other productivity application. I don't know if MS invented it but they definitely mastered it well in oldschool VS.

Let me dock/add-to-tabbed-pane/split-dock-into-multiple-panes and have the autohide/pin toggle for any window attached to any any edge of the screen, and make the Taskbar and the Quicklaunch and the Start Button just another set of Pane Windows, just with enforcement that (where appropriate) they cannot be closed or otherwise removed from the active screens, with a redundant always-accessible explorer rclick-context entry just in case you've somehow completely lost them.

Then make "maximize" mean "join the central pane as a new tab".

that's why there's still two completly different UI for managing settings? With some settings available in an UI done in the new, flat style and the old control panel that's still there?

> 11 is almost way more consistent in its UI. I'd even go as far as to say it's better than 7's.

Yeah no. Enable full-width taskbar icons (like the Windows XP style wide ones) and notice how each one of them is of a different width. It's just terrible, it's almost like someone told an intern who's never used anything prior to Windows 7 to design it.

> 11 is almost way more consistent in its UI. I'd even go as far as to say it's better than 7's.

Why my rectangle window has round corners ? Where is the scrollbar ? /s

I also chuckle every time I need to resize window by dragging an imaginary intersection of tangents to that rounded corner of some apps, that’s just hilarious.

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