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I'm out of the loop, what bashing and abuse? Every time I've seen Asahi mentioned, everyone here's falling over themselves to remark on how impressive a technical achievement it is.

It might be related to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43406393

I too had the impression people here love asahi Linux. But as the comment said those negative posts tend to disappear.

I’m not fully onboard (I don’t have a MacBook, supporting closed hw from a single vendor) but I see the appeal, and to me getting more people using Linux is major plus that outweighs the negatives. I’m not going to tell people who are generously donating their time to something not to do so.

That disclaimer when visited from HN has been there forever, it’s not related to recent news.

Look at older posts with showdead on - there's a lot of personal attacks, claims about vtuber identity, trans hate, etc. It's been a bit more chill recently, but the history is there. (apart from the recent https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43406393 which has lots of terrible people again)

To be fair a lot of them are newly created accounts that troll spam.

I think that's the point being made in the banner message / plea.

Here we are, still able to see that content.. and so can search engines and AI.

No one here at HN has done anything to remove the content that only exists to attack and demean, even though it looks like troll accounts.

We down vote it, flag it, hide it, but it's still there.

I don't know much about this particular situation, but I can empathize.

That doesn't change the content in any way. Of course people will use one off accounts to be assholes.

Sure, my point is that it's not a majority of organic hatred but artificially inflated instead.

How exactly is that fair?

A fair assessment might be that instead of a large number of regular users leaving bad comments there is a small number, potentially even one, that spin up sock accounts to make a disproportionally larger number of bigoted comments.

"with showdead on" -- that's the point, isn't it? Personal attacks against people involved with Asahi are swiftly downvoted and killed. I guess the project members would like them to be actually deleted, but that's not really how HN works.

Here it is, the original developer quit in a long post. https://marcan.st/2025/02/resigning-as-asahi-linux-project-l...

My read is this is a case of a person taking on a huge project and burning out emotionally.

No, it long predates that.

Likewise I don't think I've ever seen anything even mildly criticizing Asahi here on HN and by comparison that's saying a lot.

It generally gets flagged, but there's definitely been some bad comments.

I don't think that what I've seen, if directed at me, would get the same response -- but I obviously don't see it all, nor have it directed at me, so it's not really fair for me to say.

I’m seeing a number of say are approaching/over the line now that haven’t been flagged out, and I don’t have shoe dead on.

And there aren’t all that many comments yet.

might be --> actually is.

Nobody has any doubts left at this point in time.

Whole deal is ridiculous.

Comments about how one developer might actually be another developer qualify, I believe.

Several down-thread comments speculate that the banner is due to recent events. Some form of an HN block or banner has been present since 2023-03-21[1] (well, until about an hour ago[2]).

HN threads about Asahi, while generally positive about the project, also tend to include trans hate and speculation about a pseudonymous developer's identity. Those comments are often "dead", but show up on search engines. This has caused real harm in the lives of Asahi's trans and pseudonymous developers.

[1]: https://github.com/AsahiLinux/AsahiLinux.github.io/commit/a7...

[2]: https://github.com/AsahiLinux/AsahiLinux.github.io/commit/e0...

This is one of the reasons why these comments are no longer visible to users who do not explicitly log in and turn on showdead.

Whoa whoa whoa… where is this coming from?

> Please demand change within your community.

I'm out of loop, but I demand a dark mode. Burning my eye balls was enough -.-

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