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This is exactly the type of thing that makes me like America. Taking risks is an essential part of life and the more open you are to sane risks, the better. The reason I don't move there is tax laws, but boy do I, as a third worlder, want a "gold card".

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> sane risks

On the Venn diagram of "risky things" and "sane things", there's a lot of overlap.

But I'd say "aggravating people who have a right to bear guns" is not in the overlap.

It's a lot less fun than it sounds. https://www.kare11.com/article/news/crime/woman-shot-by-stra...

That link redirects to their YouTube channel home page.

Sorry, local news websites are a disaster. You can probably find the story by searching terms from the URL slug. That particular story doesn't really matter, it was just the most recent one in my area that came to mind. There is no shortage of similar stories across the US.

You may think yourself as very American, but the real Americans voted to keep you (and pretty much everybody else, don't worry) of their America. I call this cognitive dissonance (or trolling, I'm too simple to tell).

no we didn’t. we voted to keep illegal immigrants out. literally nobody has a problem with immigrants using legal methods.

> literally

Court order, H1B, still deported: https://www.newsweek.com/medical-doctor-deported-us-despite-...

I don’t see a problem there, they take jobs from americans and the current companies abusing the H1B process are doing so not to gain rare knowledge or experience but to abuse people. So i’m totally onboard. H1B should be for people like Musk, not randos that happen to know a few things.

You don't see a problem with a legal migrant being deported despite a court order saying "don't do that"?

> H1B should be for people like Musk, not randos that happen to know a few things.

QED you yourself falsify your own prior statement, "literally nobody has a problem with immigrants using legal methods".

This is a person using a legal method.

You have a problem with that.

i have a problem with abuse of a system yes. I also have a problem with illegal immigrants. do you think trying to confuse and argue the point is going to change my or anybody’s mind?

america first, what’s hard to understand there?

I understand, and correct me if I'm wrong, that america first damn logic or real-life contrarian examples.

You're the one who is confused. I know you're "america first", that was obvious.

You specifically said something which is false: "literally nobody has a problem with immigrants using legal methods".

This is false because your own statements in these very comments are continuing to demonstrate that you, personally, have a problem with immigrants using legal methods.

Abuse of the legal system? That would be a SLAPP, which is something your own example of Elon Musk has done, not "applying for and being granted a visa":

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2024/03/25/musk-x-...

Questionable. There are lots of people opposed to legal immigration, if you are not aware of this now you soon will be.

https://www.wmur.com/article/german-national-fabian-schmidt-...

you’ve cherry picked an example, and don’t really know what they’ve done a you don’t have a security clearance. i’ll wait to reserve judgement

Historically the burden of proof in the legal system is on the authorities, not the accused. There's a name for countries where only people with security clearances are allowed to form opinions.

Here's another example: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/19/canadian-det...

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