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How is Lisbon underrated? It's completely, chocked full of tourists and wealthy expats, and practically devoid of permanent residents because no one else can afford to live there any more.

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I agree with the sentiment, but it's very far from being devoid of permanent residents. That's maybe true for a couple of downtown neighborhoods, but definitely not true for the city as a whole.

Plus, many "wealthy expats" don't live in the city, preferring neighboring suburbs like Cascais or Sintra. The Lisbon proper is very dense, lacks greenery, and chokes in traffic, an interesting place to visit, but not to live in.

Meanwhile, every single real estate developer / agent sets their prices incredibly high hoping to sell or rent out the property to those mythical "wealthy expats". I saw a stat somewhere that less than 0.2% of all real estate transactions in the country each year involve foreigners, and yet everyone blames them for high real estate prices.

> lacks greenery

Seriously? How about:

- Avenida da Liberdade

- The Botanical Garden in Principe Real

- Parque Eduardo

- The beautiful gardens around the Gulbenkian Museum

- Jardim da Estrela

- Tapada das Necessidades

- Jardim do Principe Real

and one of the prettiest urban neighborhood green spaces I've ever been to: Jardim Fialho de Almeida

Edit: formatting

It's the 64th most visited city in Europe (EDIT: not Europe, world):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_by_internationa...

I think it deserves to be higher.

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