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Until then let's APPLAUD people not being killed in a protest, m'kay?
Non lethal force is a good alternative, even when used for evil purposes.
We're supposed to decry some sonic weapons while having no understanding of what is going on.
So what's going on?
I tried my earnest to extract it out of you why exactly you're stuck in this state, but short of you being maximally insufferable and equally sure of yourself, I was not able to get anything out.
All the while you tried every trick in the book to strong arm me into saying things I do not actually believe to derail the conversation, as well as ridiculed me every way you knew to, with a particular emphasis on anyone not sharing your opinion meaning they're childish and are fantasizing.
The usual political thread special.
Or they fire warning shots and arrest everyone?
What is the point of this conversation again? Oh right, according to you they were going to get steamrolled by tanks and shot if that fails. No, I don't think that's what would happen, not in Serbia specifically right now. Is it possible they'll get there? Sure. Just not the likely option, for now. Does having a sound cannon rule that option out? Also no. But ultimately I don't know why anyone would even entertain such an outcome, short of them somehow enjoying the thought of people suffering or dying. Which I'm pretty sure is why you were asked by that other user, whatever the fuck is wrong with you.
But let's go even further! Are there potential benefits to using something like a sound cannon as opposed to the aforementioned? I can certainly think of a few. But instead of bringing those up and actually characterizing the topic further, you were entirely too busy trying to ridicule and mock whoever you could, and try to frame others as wanting people's deaths. Was having a discussion on this ever really a goal for you at all? Is this how you discuss other things with other people too?
Getting into attack mode over nothing distracts from your goal.
Calmy presenting your position repeatedly, with some variation so its not obvious, is - or should be - your goal.
Practice more
Is mind reading part of your "presenting facts and making arguments" repertoire, or how do you know what my goals and aims are? Do you really think garbage like this is not why you're so often downvoted, rather than not having popular takes or presenting unpopular facts? Surely one cannot be so out of touch, nor stupid? And we both wrote at length how stupid we regard each other.
Speaking of stupid, do you not think of your own words as propaganda or something? Surely you're familiar with what the term means, right? [0] [1]
> Getting into attack mode over nothing distracts from your goal.
Is this an acknowledgement that you said nothing of substance so far?
> is - or should be - your goal.
But two paragraphs prior you say my goal is to "promote awareness of the immoral use of force"? Is the mind reading machine broken? Or is this one of those where you divine an opinion (such that "calmly presenting my position and repeating it over and over" and "promoting awareness of the immoral use of force" are equivalent) and present it as universal truth all over again, like you did with the false dichotomy scenario of "sound cannon vs. tanks/guns"?
[0] https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda - just for you, the Simplified English version; should be helpful.
What point am I missing?
Protest is a prelude to violence (or regime change) as much as an alternative.
I guess we're alike.
Feel free to make an argument.
> I would prefer protesters not be killed by oppressive governments. I guess you prefer tanks and guns.
On a tangential note, may I ask your stance on the Russian invasion of Ukraine? I'd guess you're also a great proponent of the "peace" the Trump administration is drafting?
I'm saying I'd rather see people robbed of their human rights by non lethal force over lethal force. There's * dozens* of mass killings that prove its not uncommon.
You have some wingnut tangent about Ukraine and assumptions that since I don't ride your high horse I'm a bad guy of fantastical proportions. Its weak minded thinkers like you that prop up the evil cabals of this world.
Feel free to contemplate the cancerous nature of your intellectual defects.
> There's * dozens* of mass killings that prove its not uncommon.
Do you know what are there dozens of examples of also? Protests that didn't result in lethal weapons being used, or weapons similar to LRAD and ADS. But that doesn't fit the convenient headcanon you oh so desperately want to corner people into "debating" with you, so that's of little concern I imagine.
You keep citing unicorns on my end, yet the only thing that seems to matter to you are your own fantasies, where options other than being Tienanmanned or being sound cannoned don't exist. No, sound cannons shall be fucking awesome because they do not directly kill, and indirect kills don't matter probably because of some other tirade about unicorns. Permanent damage also doesn't matter for similar reasons. It's all black and white, and the point is that everyone else is wrong and just a pussy, and you're badass and right. Congratulations. A real thinker of our time.
> since I don't ride your high horse I'm a bad guy of fantastical proportions
Oh, no. I think of you way lower than just a "bad guy", in good part because a language model demonstrates better reasoning, intellectual honesty, and self-reflection abilities than you do, all the while not deflecting in a hilariously performative manner to accusing the other of moralization.
> Its weak minded thinkers like you that prop up the evil cabals of this world.
Mirror. Now.
You're the one taking the stance of "but at least they didn't die so it's okay', you're the one preemptively victimizing yourself by people who dare to fault their govt at all, and then YOU HAVE THE GALL to call such people the enablers, and the weak minded. "Bad guy" my ass. You yourself are the cabal.
Uhm. So what? Some protests never happen. Some protests people wear pink hats. Some protests people stay home. So what?
I think being dead is more permanent damage than hearing loss will ever be. So yeah. They're not dead.
Lots of pussies are right and real men are wrong. Not sure why you bring up pussies?
Your high horse is kindergarten clear: bad guys did something bad and we're supposed to have moral outrage or were gonna be condemned
I refused your childish narrative and asserted my right to assert the morally superior position of life over hearing damage: I choose life.
I never called anyone weak minded nor did I say sonic or non lethals were "OK". But you seem weak minded so maybe one person.
Protestors are gonna be suppressed. Gas, arrest, mass beatings, kettling, mass shooting, etc. What does not kill them makes them stronger.
Despite your weak minded analytic skills I appreciate your reply. Please try harder next time even though I know it gives you a head ache.
Cheers.
Nobody argued that getting killed protesting is better than being sound cannoned either, but that didn't stop you from assuming that, trying to corner people into saying so, and acting hostile as all fuck, hence this entire thread.
Glad we cleared it up. I guess like protesters getting suppressed being generally true, discussing anything with an intellect of your caliber carries a similar general penalty. Definitely a valuable way to frame it that I'll keep in mind moving forward.
> Please try harder next time even though I know it gives you a head ache. Cheers.
Enjoy.