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Finland is like this precisely because it's on a border with russsia. It was exposed to pathogens early in a development cycle, which is how it developed a competent gouvernment

> a bunch of competent, sensible leaders, who actually wanted to improve the long-term health and welfare of their citizens and nation.

That’s preposterous! Doesn’t the country understand its fiduciary duty to shareholders? How do they expect to be competitive and leverage innovative profitable solutions in this hyper-competitive, high-stakes global AI NFT B2B ABC XYZ ASDF Rama Lama Ding Dong marketplace? With policies like that, they’re doomed. Yes, their citizens will live better happier lives, but at what cost?!

Sweden, norway, denmark. All slightly further away from russia!

Norway borders Russia if you’re being technical, but yes the entire of Finland is within about 400 miles of Russia, and Helsinki just over 100 miles from border, where Oslo is 1000.

Isn't this a bit of fetishization of the white man? Pretty sure all European countries have competent health agencies and AFAIK, the nordic countries do not score particularly well in health care metrics.

If he had said South Korea, Japan and Thailand, would you then have accused him of fetishization of the asian man? What is your point with such a stupid and unnecessary remark?

Health care in Sweden isn't what I seem to recall it to be in the early 2000s. But to imply that it does not "score well" is completely false.

Australia has some of the best healthcare outcomes in the world, and is significantly further away from Russia.

Unfortunately, we trade that for significantly closer proximity to new Zealand...

Very high rate of peanut allergies in Oz

Protocol changing though. Early childhood exposure now recommended to weak doses and a supervised schedule for reactive kids which reduces anaphylaxis risks. Parter carries an epipen and we keep hoping some remediative treatment for adults will emerge but nothing yet.

usa has a whole agency for it

National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID).

edit: to ppl claiming this must be useless because its in usa is incredible ignorant and insulting to ppl who work there. pls do minimum of research before making such statements.

they even have link to their ongoing clinical trials on their website homepage

https://www.niaid.nih.gov/clinical-trials/find-a-clinical-tr...

I don't think that it's about the good people who work at NIAID, rather about the larger system in which this agency is contained, that may not be "listening to the experts", delivering good outcomes at good costs to all people. And that the value of such agencies may not be recognised. How secure is their funding today?

I'm not sure if the US and public healthcare are a positive word combination exactly. Having an agency doesn't mean the outcomes are good.

Assuming the agency survives the next 6 months…

That it is not leaders, these are experts in government agencies that work for the best of the people. The difference is that you have to give them responsibilities and trust them as a society.

When experts get heard, then you have competent, sensible leaders.

When leaders say things like "the people of this country have had enough of experts" then you don't. Invoking "the people" like that is another warning sign.

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