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I have to admit I have little knowledge of Swedish politics, but I read he was part of Bevara Sverige Svenskt, which went around with slogans such as "don't let your daughter become a negro toy" and "negros threaten their victims". That's just dehumanising racist nonsense.

If you want to talk about Swedish culture then sure and critique various forms of multiculturalism, then sure, that's fine. But by focusing on skin colour "white nationalism" is fundamentally racist.

The historic reality begs to differ: Sweden covers large parts of the traditional homelands of non-Swedish people. Current reality differs as well, obviously. No matter how you twist it and turn it, the argument can only make sense for a hypothetical, geographically smaller Sweden that does not exist.

> Sweden covers large parts of the traditional homelands of non-Swedish people.

How does this lead to the conclusion that Swedish ethno-nationalism is bad?

In the ethno-nationalistic sense, Sweden is not a nation state. In its current reality, Sweden is ethnically diverse and it (partially) covers the homelands of several peoples/"nations" in the ethno-nationalistic sense. The latter issue could, e.g., be solved by giving up most of what the Swedes in the South call Norrland. This would deplete "Sweden" of natural resources and make it even more dependent on high-skilled immigration to ensure that at least the tech industry industry in the somewhat larger cities keeps running.

If Sweden isn't Swedish because ~30k Sami live there, then China isn't Chinese because 50K Uzbeks live there. You're not arguing that Sweden isn't a nation-state, you're arguing that nation states don't exist, which is just silly.

You are introducing a straw-man argument here (that obviously ignores basic facts about population sizes of Sweden and China, so it's wrong on both meta- and object-level). But following that line of reasoning, Sweden is not an ethnostate because the Swedish population is ethnically diverse. E.g., more than a third of the population are either foreign-born or have at least one foreign-born parent. At the same time, the current borders of Sweden cover more than the traditional homeland of your preferred "Swedes". So apparently, you are actually arguing for a racist empire. Demographic reality is not your friend, though. Perhaps you will have more success some generations down the road. Try to sell the same story to the ethnically substantially different group of people who will consider themselves "Swedes" then.

They as others are making the point that racism is bad, you keep justifying it because Swedish people are white

Thinking that a Swedish Sweden is racist is racist. Do better.

Your comments are getting flagged because of how you are pretending your racist comments are legitimate

How is that not racism

By this logic I suppose you would also be opposed to black power movements or certain African nationalist tendencies? White is more than just one bland, interchangeably generic ethnicity/race. It's hundreds of millions of people of many ethnicities and they have no less right to celebrate these cultural roots than anyone else. It's a shame to see so many of them cheaply labeled as white nationalist ergo Nazis even if they might have fuck all to do with racist fascism.

the people you support have highly offensive slogans

You conveniently left out the context and are looking at these issues in a vacuum, which is an ahistorical false equivalence and not based in reality. The black power movements are born out of minority resistance to a society which used to trade those humans as property. What you are describing is a "white" society extending its domination over all other people in a "nation", ergo Nazism.

Another day, another nazi on HN

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