However, there are other Italians contemporary to them, were we use other parts of their name as a shorthand, sometimes altered somewhat to adjust to our modern forename-surname system. For example: Filippo di ser Brunellesco di Lippo Lapi => Filippo Brunelleschi, or Niccolò di Bernardo dei Machiavelli => Niccolò Machiavelli.
There are other special cases: Giovanni Pico dei conti della Mirandola e della Concordia is known as "Giovanni Pico della Mirandola" and can be reffered to as "Pico della Mirandola" or "Pico", but usally not as "della Mriandola".
Galileo Galilei is also a special case, were both, "Galileo" and "Galilei", are acceptable (although I think "Galilei" is becoming more and more the standard).
So there is no rule of thumb how to refer to famous Italians of the Renaissance. It differs from case to case. You simply have to follow the individual practices.
> It differs from case to case. You simply have to follow the individual practices.
Surely in the case of Leonardo da Vinci, the “standard practice” in English is to say “da Vinci” or “ Leonardo da Vinci”, not _just_ “Leonardo”. Leonardo could be anyone for all I know
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The standard way to avoid confusion is to introduce him as "Leonardo da Vinci" and later just say "Leonardo".
But in fact, the man your college friend-group calls "Johnny from the Bronx" in English would not be shortened to "from the Bronx".
If the topic is sketching and someone refers to Leonardo, you should know who it is.
It's like referring to "Michael" when talking about basketball.
Indeed. There was a famous Leonardo from Pisa. Son of Bonacci.
Ibn, bin -- son of Abu -- father of
Sometimes, if Abdul happened not to have a son, the placeholder would be filled by some other famous Abdul's son.
Think of it as "Leonardo from Chicago". The title wouldn't sound right with "by from Chicago".
Icelandic names today are almost the same - the "daughter/son" part is more like a "from" identifier than an actual name. Thus you address an Icelander by the "first" name. Or you'll end up doing the equivalent of calling someone "from Chicago".
A number of Dutch, displeased with Napoleon and thinking the surname thing wouldn't last, took... unfortunate surnames.
(Luckily, these posts are explicitly datestamped .. !)
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