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> The failure of Athena, which was packed with scientific probes and experiments that Nasa was relying on as it prepares to send astronauts back to the moon for the first time since 1972, was almost identical to IM’s first moon landing in February 2024.

Does this mean delays for Artemis, or do we not know yet?

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Spaceship fiasco will delay Artemis so much that there is no need to even consider landing on the Moon in the next 10 years.

> Spaceship [sic] fiasco will delay Artemis

Artemis II is entirely delayed by Lockheed’s Orion spacecraft. Not SpaceX’s Starship.

I wouldn't say entirely. Starship isn't going to be involved in Artemis II, but Artemis III supposed to take humans to the moon in December 2025. Nobody's on schedule.

That artemis III date is very old. Artimis II is now scheduled to take place no earlier than April 2026 [1].

III is scheduled for mid 2027, and will be delayed further as time passes [2].

1. https://www.nasa.gov/mission/artemis-ii/

2. https://www.nasa.gov/mission/artemis-iii/

Am I crazy or is the SLS system is actually the most timely component?

Edit: Yeah, I'm crazy. SLS might be ready now, but it was delayed about 6 years. Starship and Orion both have a bit to catch up.

No SLS II isn't ready now. Its launching mid next year, but there are concerns about Orion's heat shield. Also, II isn't planned to land on the moon. And it may be delayed further.

> wouldn't say entirely. Starship isn't going to be involved in Artemis II

So entirely.

Artemis III is being delayed by Artemis II. We expect Starship to delay III. But so far, 100% of the delays have been caused by Orion.

Technically, sure. Practically, nobody's on schedule. I don't think Orion's delays absolve Starship's.

Spaceship - Starship who do hell cares, it will never get to the Moon anyway.

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