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I have to wonder what happened to this person to just shoot up straight Russian propaganda on HN all day every day.

And here I am wondering what happened to you guys. Did I hallucinate Obama ragging on Romney for not realizing the Cold War was over? When did Kissinger and Domino Theory come back in vogue?

Probably around the time the largest war in Europe since WW2 began. Your neighbors being actively invaded and the country saying "you're next" on state TV[1] tends to make people think "maybe that country isn't our friend". Saying "I dunno guys. They're killing people and saying they'll kill us next, but maybe we should wait to find out" is not a very smart strategy.

[1] https://www.newsweek.com/andrey-sidorov-warns-poland-may-cea...

By that logic you could justify American involvement in the first gulf war by saying it was “the largest war in the middle east since WW2” or Vietnam as “the largest war in Asia since WW2.” The logic of opposing american interventionism never rested on the fact that there wasn’t a conflict happening.

People kind of universally agree that the US meddling in the middle east and Vietnam was/is awful.

This may come as a shock to you, but “us guys” are capable of thinking our leaders may be wrong.

> Did I hallucinate Obama ragging on Romney for not realizing the Cold War was over?

You did not; in hindsight, Romney now looks very prescient on this particular point.

Russia has invested in the downfall of the west since long before most people on this earth were born.

Non-westerners who experienced western rule for hundreds of years see this as a positive, not a negative. If you don't understand this comment, that's another part of why most of the world was unwilling to line up behind the US even before Trump.

Fun fact: Russians before the recent changes bought literal package tours that flew them into Cancun then bused them to the border and helped them cross. Know a guy who did it, luckily a good guy - eventually was able to get a green card.

> The refrain of “muh allies” is bizarre.

I usually appreciate the well-reasoned intellectual tone of your comments. This is just disappointing.

As for the substance of your comment, America is free to experiment with replacing all of its mutually beneficial relationships with adversarial ones. The consequences might not be particularly advantageous, or easy to undo.

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