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The National Electric Vehicle Infrastructure (NEVI) Formula Program and the Charging and Fueling Infrastructure (CFI) Discretionary Grant Program have made significant progress in expanding electric vehicle (EV) charging infrastructure across the United States.

As of July 2024, eight states had opened their first NEVI-funded stations, totaling 61 ports, and powered thousands of charging sessions.

Over the course of the Biden-Harris Administration, the number of publicly available EV chargers more than doubled. With approximately 1,000 new public chargers being added each week, there are over 200,000 publicly available charging ports.

It's irritating to see Joe Rogan's moronic talking points repeated uncritically in these hallowed halls. Truly, as Brandolini[0] observed, public discourse is flooded with misinformation faster than we can bail it out.

0. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandolini%27s_law

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>As of July 2024, eight states had opened their first NEVI-funded stations, totaling 61 ports, and powered thousands of charging sessions.

That's not good for a law that was ratified in November of 2021. It might be about par for the course for the federal government, but that's the problem.

> Over the course of the Biden-Harris Administration, the number of publicly available EV chargers more than doubled. With approximately 1,000 new public chargers being added each week, there are over 200,000 publicly available charging ports.

The trick being played here is counting all charging stations in the US and pretending they're part of the IRA's funding.

Yes, that is a neat trick.

> As of July 2024, eight states had opened their first NEVI-funded stations, totaling 61 ports, and powered thousands of charging sessions.

As of FY 2024, $2.385 billion had been allocated from the funding. For 61 ports across 4 (four) charging locations. $39M PER PORT.

This, per NEVI's own numbers: https://driveelectric.gov/files/nevi-annual-report-2023-2024...

I would sure like to see a breakdown in how that 2.3B was spent.

Has it been spent? Allocation is not spending.

allocated == money handed out

in accounting rules, it's spent money. the notes say that 61 ports have been built from that allocated money.

like I said, I would love to see the cost breakdown. is all that allocated money spent? are some projects still being constructed? three years seems like a long time to get 61 ports when you allocated $2B.

I'm more concerned with whether the entities that were handed the money have themselves spent it yet.

I'll be honest and tell you I didn't look into the specifics of this project.

My guess would be that the money is also allocated for an X amount of sites / charging ports still in progress. Or do they only allocate the money after the site is fully operational?

If that's the case, I think saying '2B spent for 61 ports' is disingenuous at best.

You don't think a (probably significant) portion of that money is allocated to sites that were 'in progress' on July 2024?

From what I can tell from the newsletter I get from a big European charging infrastructure provider the lead time of a new charging location tends to be 1 - 2 years depending on the specific location.

While I do agree these numbers are disingenuous, looking at politics I definitely see the next administration counting the chargers that will come up past January 2025 to their win list. Oh well, I guess that's politics.

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