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If you watch the video of the exchange, it was a complete setup. Zelensky was being very diplomatic when they started attacking him. Vance literally said he didn't need to visit Ukraine to see for himself because he "had seen videos".

Zelensky was brought here specifically to be publicly humiliated on live TV.

In 80 years, if we still have history books, this moment will be in them.

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The theory is that the only reason Vance was present was to be able to double-team Zelenskyy.

I think the VP is usually present at these types of meetings; but indeed there was double-teaming.

and Rubio was there to.....

sit and do nothing in an ill fitting suit

What can he really do in that situation? He can defend Zelensky or join in for a triple teaming. There aren't good options.

I think defending Zelensky would have been the honorable thing to do. It could have inspired other Republicans to start turning.

Rubio?

Honorable?

That, and Trump is incoherent. He has been for a couple of years now, unable to put even two sentences together that make any sense. He speaks entirely in applause one-liners. I think his dementia is significant now. If he were left alone with any world leader they'd realize almost immediately he's incompetent.

This is especially evident when you compare interviews today with those he gave 30 years ago. He was bright then. He's nothing like that today. That's also why he now refuses to be interviewed by unfriendlies.

Him on Oprah then is night and day compared to now.

That seems plausible as Trump in his speeches loses his train of thought now and then. Would not play well if he was alone in that situation.

The only humiliation that I saw was that of the United States by Trump's conduct. I was amazed at how calm Zelensky remained during that meeting.

The Propaganda Minister is also decrying Zelenskyy on Twitter, on cue. Probably had the tweet written hours ago.

It's up to the reader to decide if I was referring to Musk or Medvedev here, or perhaps both.

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