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"Eschew flamebait. Avoid generic tangents." - https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

These things lead to (very) low-quality threads, as seen below.

You can still get an education, you just have to be rich.

So the number of educated people in the country drops

The america that put a man on the moon had only 10% of adults with a college degree.

The America that launched 158 rockets to orbit in one year and landed most of the boosters for reuse had a substantially higher rate.

Doge geniuses would have cut that 4% of the federal budget right before Apollo 11

It’s an interesting question. Would doge suddenly have a change of heart if they were trying to compete with a serious enemy?

Given Trump's stances this week, I somehow think we've gone reverse red scare and would just work to spread communism in America. We're just so different from 50/60 years ago.

True, but in the 40s, 50s and 60s, High School Courses were very close to undergrad courses now in the US.

Back then, public schools were not afraid of failing students, plus hardly anyone in high school worked after school. Typically they work at summer jobs. Also if you dropped out at 16, you could find work at a living wage, not now.

we also had manufacturing jobs, strong unions, and a better minimum wage. We getting any of those back?

So, how was education doing in pre-1971 East Pakistan?

You mean like Pitt's endowment of 5.8 Billion?

Oxford and ETH Zurich will be open for the rich, but Trumpists openly despise higher education, and I'm not sure whether any American universities will be safe if Trump stays in power for four years.

RIP US-based Academia INC In the immediate term, obviously the center of academic research moves to Europe/Asia, but the longer term damage is irreparable. Where is the 0-1 basic research that fundamentally moves the ball forward going to come from? Clearly not the US anymore.

Great that you have invoked China. Guess what their research grant overhead is? 15-20%.

Source?

They would in the end vote against you. You can't let that happen.

Franco and Stalin both increased University funding.

Cuba to this day spends more of its GDP on education than any other nation on Earth.

Syria (under Assad) spent more than South Korea, Afghanistan more than Greece, Iran more than the UK, Egypt more than Ireland, Iraq (under Sadam) more than Japan, Saudi Arabia more than Canada, etc.

You can look it up, the more totalitarian the government the higher the spend on education not less.

There's three big cohorts that heavily fund their University systems:

1. The Nordic States 2. Former British colonies 3. Dictatorships

China doesn’t fund all of the bullshit research America does in the social sciences of dubious quality and reproducibility. I would love to axe everything that isn’t a hard science.

They have a whole fund for it called National Social Science Fund that funds non-STEM and alike research.

Yes. The only thing that contributes to society is science.

That's why we have museums devoted exclusively to science and the study of science. It's why scientists tend to write great books about the human condition.

Jesus Christ.

Also. Define hard science please.

It seems to me that wonderful books about philosophy and the human condition could be written without taxpayer funding, considering all of human knowledge is available at our fingertips

What if... the taxpayers would like such books to be written?

Why are we blaming Schools for using taxpayer funds and not the congress (or state govenor) who makes the budget? When did we celebrate shooting the messenger?

Also, this is pretty selfish reasoning. I'm sure the manufacturing jobs feeding us would take a stance to defund science as well. It's just a bunch of nerds playing around in a lab. They aren't contributing to the country.

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