In fact, most of them are just implemented by feeding an LLM the text, and asking "is it AI generated?". You cannot trust that answer any more than any other LLM hallucination. LLMs don't have a magic ability to recognise their own output.
Even if your "detection tool" was using exactly the same model, at the same exact version... unless the generation was done with 0 temperature, you just wouldn't be able to confirm that the tool would actually generate the same text that you suspect of being LLM-generated. And even then, you'd need to know exactly the input tokens (including the prompt) used.
Currently, the only solution is watermarking, like what Deepmind created:
https://deepmind.google/discover/blog/watermarking-ai-genera...
but even that, it requires cooperation from all the LLM vendors. There's always going to be one (maybe self-hosted) LLM out there which won't play ball.
If you're going to accuse someone of pushing LLM-generated content, don't hide behind "computer said so", not without clearly qualifying what kind of detection technique and which "detection tool" you used.
Yes, compared to an all-or-nothing approach, it's better to be upfront about the uncertainty, especially if the tool surfaces the probability by-sentence.
But how are those probabilities computed? You mention gptzero, but https://gptzero.me/technology doesn't clarify at all how it works. They link papers using GPTZero (i.e. from other researchers), e.g. https://arxiv.org/pdf/2310.13606
And these very same papers highlight how everything is still unknown
> Despite their wide use and support of non-English languages, the extent of their zero- shot multilingual and cross-lingual proficiency in detecting MGT remains unknown. The training methodologies, weight parameters, and the spe- cific data used for these detectors remain undis- closed.
GPTZero seems to be better than some of the alternatives, but other discussions here on HN when it was launched highlight all of the false positives and false negatives it yielded:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34556681
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34859348
But all of that is pretty old, there have been a couple of posts in the last year about it, but both are about the business, rather than the quality of the tool itself.
https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=pastYear&page=0&prefix=fal...
So, to check if now it's any better I tried it myself: I got it to yield a false negative (50% human and 50% AI rating, for a text which was wholly AI-generated), and I haven't got it to yield a false positive.
But all of this is just anecdotal evidence, I haven't run a rigorous study.
For sure, if some competent people believe that the tool won't generate false positives, I'll be mindful of it and (In the rare cases in which I write a long posts/blog articles, etc.) I'll check that it doesn't erroneously flag what I write.
It's bittersweet: if a tool that can be relied upon really exist, that would be good news. But if that tool is closed source (just like ChatGPT, Gemini, etc.) that doesn't inspire confidence. What if the closed source detection tool will suddenly start erroneously flagging a subset of human texts which it didn't before?
At least, even with the closed source LLMs, we have a bunch of papers that explain their mechanism. I hope that GPTZero will be more forthcoming about the way it works.
You don't have to extrapolate too many iterations before you start arguing that you can't trust you're living in base reality.
My take on both issues is that even if you're right, the choice is whether to spend your life in a state of cynical paranoia, or not.
If you figure out the consciousness equivalent of Ctrl-Shift-Esc, please report back.
>Today I'm working on Chroma Cloud, designed for exploring and managing large datasets, and Next.js powers its advanced interactions and data loading requirements.
which is unlikely to have been written by an LLM.
And it mostly makes too much sense apart from "most drivers don't know how many gears their car has" which has me thinking huh? It's usually written on the shifter.