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> but it's also noticeably bigger.

I dunno, the old SE wasn’t a mini by any means - this is .3 inches taller and .2 inches wider, so yes bigger but not like a different size class altogether

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The SE had a pretty huge bezel though. That's an annoying feature of it, but at the same time it means that the screen was actually much smaller than the 16e's screen, and therefore (depending on how you hold it) easier to use one handed, which is what most people who want a small phone are looking for.

This is a lot bigger. IIRC the mini is smaller than the old SE, and this is bigger than the mini. It's not a "plus" sized iPhone, but that would be skipping up two size classes. It has gone from small to regular.

To be absolutely clear, the mini is bigger than the first gen SE but smaller than the second and third gen SE.

Oh true. I guess we skipped those generations since there wasn't much difference compared to the regular iPhones that were out at the time.

Now compare it to 1st Gen SE.

Easily the nicest form factor phone they ever produced. You can reach the entire screen with the thumb in one hand without awkwardly flopping the phone onto the thumb in the farthest corner. It is smaller than your wallet. The battery lasted forever because the screen was small and not that bright or nearly so pixel dense.

Too bad the management consultants killed such a technology.

I kinda want the 1st-gen 4" SE screen on a bezel-less modern phone. That'd really fit nicely in a pocket. Would modern apps and modern websites be usable on it?... not really, but maybe I don't need them anyway.

I am using it perfectly fine.

There’s no conspiracy. Not enough people like small phones. Apple’s biggest spike happened once they ditched the iPhone 5 size and went to bigger phones with the iPhone 6.

I’m willing to bet it was some people in management that missed the small phones and fought to re-introduce a smaller form factor phone. They succeeded in making the best small phones ever made and rounding down approximately nobody bought them. Blame the general public for killing the form factor.

Apple sells how few Mac Pros a year and still sells them? They could ship another couple skus. One of the largest tech companies on the face of the earth and you are telling me they can't ship a cellphone.

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