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It seems kinda silly to use a separate service to generate embeddings for t-SNE when you have the embeddings in the model already.

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Is it generating embeddings or just coordinates? What would be a better way?

What are embeddings if not "just coordinates"?

Well ... we have to reduce them to a 2D plane to visualize them ...

That just makes them higher order coordinates, no?

Higher order, yes, but as these coordinates certainly contain less information, it's possible they contain only noise.

Something needs to generate the document embeddings since the LLM itself won't

No, this is completely wrong. You can get embeddings from the LLM itself, e.g the last layer.

Doesn't the last layer output a variable-size vector based on seq length? It'd take a bit of hacking to get it to be a semantic vector.

Additionally, that vector is trained to predict next token as opposed to semantic similarity. I'd assume models trained specifically towards semantic similarity would outperform (I have not bothered comparing both in the past - MMTEB seems to imply so)

At that point - it seems quite reasonable to just pass the sentence into an embedding model.

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