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Luna comes across as unhinged and obsessive, in both public communications and in Lina's document detailing her experience with Luna (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1W2Vvwg0rwSVb5r4TQ_NmAF8S...). As "Luna said so" is really the best you got, I'll keep viewing this claim as entirely unsubstantiated.

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Luna is also the main developer of Inochi2D, the software used to animate Asahi Lina, and is acknowledged as the character's co-creator. Your ad-hominem attack on Luna aside, do you really think Luna would not know who Asahi Lina is? Who do you think Hector worked with in order to have "Asahi Lina" appear on his stream?

The first line of your Google document, written by "Asahi Lina", confirms it straight up:

> Unfortunately, on August 1st, Luna publicly: Doxxed me with a real-world identity

You should verify that reference for yourself, archives of what Luna said are readily available on the internet. I can confirm that what Luna said on August 1st, 2024, is the same thing she's saying today: Hector Martin is Asahi Lina.

The dossier corroborates Luna's claims.

(Also, what kind of person has a dossier ready to go if their contributor goes rogue? A controlling and manipulative person, that's who.)

We don't know who "Jia Tan" is, nor "Jigar Kumar", but we know that the person, or group of people behind these identities and others, used sockpuppetry to bully Andres Freund into giving them control over xz-utils, and we know what they did with that access. Even if pseudonyms are accepted, there should be zero tolerance for sockpuppetry in the Linux Kernel. If Hector Martin quits (https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20250207-rm-maint-v1-1-10f069a2...), the personas/pseudonyms/avatars/characters of Hector Martin should quit too, but "Asahi Lina" continues to post on LKML.

I know who Luna is.

When your argument is "a person said it so it's probably true", the natural next step is to ascertain whether that person is credible or not. That's not an instance of the ad hominem fallacy.

It does not matter how "unhinged and obsessive" (that's an ad-hominem attack, btw), the co-creator of a fictional character is. They are still co-creator. They know who the other co-creator is; it's Hector Martin.

You know this.

You also know the document you linked affirms that "Asahi Lina" (not a real person) did not like being "doxxed" on the date that Luna said Asahi Lina was Hector Martin.

What I take from that is Hector Martin wrote the document. Do you disagree?

What I'm saying is I do not take Luna's word for it. I do not consider her a reliable source.

Fine, that's your opinion (it's not mine), so please discuss the document you brought up, that you've auspiciously avoided mentioning for the past two replies.

The document you brought up says "Unfortunately, on August 1st, Luna publicly: Doxxed me with a real-world identity". On that day, Luna said Asahi Lina was Hector Martin. Discuss.

There's a reason why the document says "Doxxed me with a real-world identity" and not "Doxxed me with MY real-world identity." It's because she was doxxed, but the doxxing was wrong.

"Doxxing" refers to providing the real world identity of a psuedononymous person, breaking their pseudoanonymity.

It doesn't refer to providing the WRONG identity, as that wouldn't break their pseudoanonymity. You, hananova -- are the QUEEN OF FRANCE! Did I doxx you or not? I don't believe I did.

You can't have it both ways. Either Hector Martin is Asahi Lina (which he is), and Luna revealed this to Martin's chagrin, and Martin published a document to try and trash Luna's reputation as a clumsy attempt at damage control, or Luna didn't reveal Martin's barely-concealed secret and no need to publish the document.

By publishing the document, we know which interpretation is correct.

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