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Nothing to see here. Just a massive conflict of interest from an unelected foreigner exacting power over your government.

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She was born in Philadelphia.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phyllis_Fong

I think they mean Musk

He's naturalized an American for roughly 20 years.

After he broke US immigration law.

A lot of people who broke US immigration law are now naturalized citizens.

And so?

It would be unfair to retroactively remove someone's citizenship for illegally overstaying their own visa... But if you're punishing the child for their parents doing it, then it's just common-sense justice! /S

I'm really tired of all this Calvinball.

TIL the term Calvinball: so great and apropos.

Elon Musk, however, was not.

Right. Because that's how presidential elections work - the president must do everything personally for the next 4 years and is not allowed to use other people to act on his behalf. That's what Biden did all 4 years for example.

i actually have no clue - but isnt musk a u.s. citizen? it would actually surprise me if he were not.

It’s a sketchy story, he was technically in violation of his J1 visa since he was skipping classes and picked up an H1B work visa for his own startup which J1 strictly requires prior authorization for. It would seem he had some strings pulled and got post-hoc pre-authorization, or otherwise took advantage of some grace period and applied for the new visa with a fib. It’s all water under the bridge now, from a brief googling Denaturalization is rare except for cases of concealing crimes committed during naturalization or sham marriages. Lying on your application should revoke it from you but if it’s merely an omission, I don’t know, comes down to political will to prosecute, maybe if he pisses trump off enough somebody will “look into it”

please avoid weasel words like "technically" - he immigrated illegally, and it was not prosecuted because he is white and wealthy. This is important, since he is now part of a very harsh crackdown against people who are much more vulnerable than he ever has been, and who committed less serious and more understandable infractions.

An illegal immigrant at that.

It’s not illegal for the rich to pay to skip the line. (For the uninitiated, at first glance it would appear Elon was in violation of his J-1 student visa as he didn’t attend classes at Stanford, but he was swiftly employed by way of an H1-B visa and had the paperwork fast tracked through his VC-DC connections. His brother did refer to himself and Elon as illegal immigrants tho, I would say no more illegal than our First Lady.)

The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread

He was never enrolled at Stanford and was working while on a J-1. That is visa fraud. It's likely, because he never even enrolled in classes, that he intentionally applied to Stanford with the intention to never go to school there but to instead use it as a front to start working in Silicon Valley. And it's possible he even overstayed his J-1 visa while waiting on an H1-B.

Lots of bros here who support this for some reason. Wait till they come for your 500K salary.

Trump was elected, and he was born in the US, though he does have German ancestry. As an immigrant myself, I personally find it very worrying though that it becomes normal to use foreign descent as a slur in the American political debate. I thought at least the left is supportive of immigrants, but looks like it's conditional on political views and no person of foreign descent can feel safe from attack because of their origin.

While Republicans cheer.

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