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DeepSeek is only thing because they used OpenAI for refinement.

"Apple only exists because they used Motorola IP" type comment

It wasn’t just IP though. DeepSeek actually used OpenAIs API and resources. I’m not saying it was unethical.

Almost all innovation is derivative or incremental in some way.

The difference is that DeepSeek couldn’t actually be created as cheaply as it was without using OpenAIs resources - not just IP.

It did refinement by using OpenAI to create synthetic data.

Ok.

But it now exists, and OpenAI seems to have no way to control Deepseek, or any legitimate claim they can enforce to stop it.

Oops.