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Are comments like these in good faith?

The parent comment feels like a “Reddit” comment. It appears when taken at face value defamatory and potentially in violation of California law. It implies guilt and does not use words like allegedly for things that have not been proven.

This seems like an unwise post to make, and adds nothing to the discussion. It very well may also violate the rules of HN.

>> was arrested in 2021 for domestic violence for beating up his girlfriend.

> The parent comment ... does not use words like allegedly for things that have not been proven.

The 2021 arrest (and charges) seem plainly factual. Is your position that the arrest might not have happened?

In many/most jurisdiction police are pretty much forced to arrest _someone_ (usually by written policy) if there is a DV complaint, yet the conviction rate is way under 100%. It is probably the least reliable arrest record as a prediction of finding of guilt.

As someone who long was married to an abusive spouse, I'd offer that we spouses tend to view mistreatment as a workable, if difficult, part of a marriage. Our desire to put events behind us doesn't mean that the events didn't happen.

The public doesn't know what events happened if they don't make it to trial or some other public forum. An arrest record unfortunately can't distinguish between events put behind and those that never happened. A presumption of innocence barring further evidence is not an unreasonable approach.

> A presumption of innocence barring further evidence is not an unreasonable approach.

General calls to stop bullhorning about arrest details are best directed at police and justice depts first. While they get a pass, calling out anyone else makes little sense.

You think that me, a European, is violating Calfironia law by posting a comment on Hacker News that cites the linked article?

Don't you people have a thing for free speech or something?

> This seems like an unwise post to make

What are you threatening, exactly?

unwise?

Is it acting in good faith to hire the professional crypto scam whitewasher Christian Ericssen (who sometimes misspells his own pseudonym Ericsen) as a representative to threaten and bribe people?

Whether or not the police report that was sealed actually says what it's reported it does, the courts did not seal the record that the recourse he chose was to hire a pseudonymous representative so spectacularly unethical and dishonest that he has a track record of whitewashing the reporting of crypto scams.

Talk about scraping the bottom of the barrel. When you lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas. I'd refuse to hire or associate with Maury Blackman just for choosing to hire Christian Ericssen/Ericsen to represent himself and threaten and bribe people on his behalf, regardless of when or how often Maury Blackman gets recorded beating his girlfriend then successfully threatens her to recant what she said in the police report.

I think they're pointing out the Streisand Effect at play here.

Comments like above usually serve a couple of sentiments - not just pointing out the Striesand effect but attempting to amplify it. The trend I think got popular with the teenager involved in People v. Turner[1]. At the time there was a fair amount of fear that the case would be entirely buried due to his advantageous position in society (not altogether different than what is being discussed here). He also changed his name. So people would make comments like above on Reddit and other social media platforms as a sort of attempt to ensure that it be extremely difficult to erase attachment of the name from the incident in the future entirely.

You can see this at play still today anytime that teenager's name comes up on Reddit. Very typical example thread here[2]

That thread is pretty exemplary of the trend, someone will say "convicted rapist Brock Turner", and everyone will pile on and also state it, in some sort of attempt to continue to keep the association at the top of the search engine.

That being said, after it's been done once the original purpose is already accomplished and I'd consider it a pretty lowbrow attempt at humor after that. It probably would be considered low effort enough to warrant a downvote here.

1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_v._Turner

2: https://www.reddit.com/r/army/comments/zk7jqi/comment/izz33a...

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