So, an overall win for software developers and cloud providers?

Salesforce's visualforce pages are JSF though

>Yep, time to dust off PrimeFaces.

You joke, but PrimeReact and PrimeVue are some of the best libs out there today, due largely to that heritage. Great company.

PrimeFaces is very well-maintained and regularly updated.

I'd even go further and say that it's one of the few things that makes working with JSF bearable for me.

I'm still a thousand times more productive with React though, and PrimeReact also helps there.

I straddle the fence here, I think we jump down people's throats a bit too quickly when it comes to putting names on their new library. But I do also wish we'd stop reinventing things and patting ourselves on the back in other cases.

Eg we are definitely working backwards from SPAs now. "JavaScript islands" were how we got to SPA frameworks in the first place.

I don't have all the history and references, but anyone working in web in the late 2000s and 2010s can attest to how progressively adding in javascript on server side rendered HTML was already happening, even componentizing the server side code with CSS and JS packaged up was very common.

"The term “component island” was first coined by Etsy’s frontend architect Katie Sylor-Miller in 2019. This idea was then expanded on and documented in this post by Preact creator Jason Miller on August 11, 2020."

My only gripe, is that this leads the ready on an alternate history of how we got here.

I started out using React in "islands" almost 10 years ago. The server rendered page would have React components attached to the interactive parts of the page. Fascinating that we're coming full circle to that. Hopefully with better state management and interoperability.