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> Western media is also very anti-Israeli

Taking nothing away from your personal local experiences wherever you are, I don't think this is a generally true statement.

https://institute.aljazeera.net/en/ajr/article/2871

https://www.protect-journalists.com/

Al Jazeera is far from unbiased. _Some_ of these so-called "Journalists" were terrorists and/or Hamas propagandists. That fact seems to escape the western press. All reporting I have seen puts the same level of credibility between Israeli and Hamas statements - one being from an elected democracy with rules based order and the other a literal genocidal terrorist organisation. I don't see the retractions given the same exposure as the claims when it turns out Hamas have lied. I don't see the atrocities Hamas commits get air time.

This is just my experience over the last 16 months. I thought it was absolutely crazy that within hours of Oct 7th I was seeing in the news how Israel should be blamed or are responsible. This weird rewriting of history in real time doesn't seem to have been let up since. It feels like I am taking crazy pills with the amount of vehement anti-Israeli diatribe that comes out of what I thought were sensible people or unbiased institutions.

People are pointing to a very long history of misbehavior on the part of Israel when they say that. Something along the lines of “hamas and their attack was to be expected given the circumstances israel, the party with all the decisionmaking power, deliberately cultivated over decades.”

And yet there is the speech by Jordan's foreign minister who makes clear that the Arab states are interested in relations with Israel - as a normal state and as part of a two-state solution with mutual sovereignty, but not with a state that behaves as if they had some divine right to dominate the entire region.

https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/2024-10-02/ty-article-opinio...

Interested? Most (functional) countries in the middle east are US-aligned trading partners. Jordan, SA, Turkey, Egypt, Kuwait, Iraq...

Good question. I think there was a quote by some Saudi official that the government doesn't care a lot about the issue and would prefer the normalization agreement to go through, but the population does - and sidelining the Palestinian issue would risk domestic stability.

I could imagine this is the sentiment in many of the countries there.

As usual, every accusation is a confession. Only Zionists can commit a genocide and simultaneously project their own crimes onto others.

Amnesty International investigation concludes Israel is committing genocide against Palestinians in Gaza: https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2024/12/amnesty-inter...

Press releases UN body, UN Special Committee finds Israel’s warfare methods in Gaza consistent with genocide, including use of starvation as weapon of war: https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/11/un-special-c...

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