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It’s more honest, and is one of the few things regular folks can do that leaves a very obvious paper trail if something goes sideways.
I would say this is a positive development for society. Corporations have benefitted for too long by cultivating fear of speaking out. I’m glad it’s changing.
I genuinely don’t understand why this is a bad thing
This is standard shit that young people can go through. I've WRITTEN crazy diatribes like this and deleted it. I got it out for myself, but reflected on it carefully.
I had to literally therapy myself out of just how self-important I became.
Narcissists are people too man, believe it or not. We literally need to work on ... not writing LinkedIn articles (or in my case HN posts).
I’ve worked in roles that were very much not a good fit but I wasn’t treated bad at the same time, it was simply clear there was a mismatch.
They aren’t the same thing at all.
Accountability is extremely important and it must run both ways. Corporate culture has been top down for far too long
Listen to the story. This person's entire identity is now THIS. She is now the anti-work-bosses-are-bad-gimme-my-80k-followers. Two wrongs don't make a right.
I cannot support this nonsense. If you can't see the phenomenon here at scale, then we're truly at odds and I can't see a middle ground between our camps.
It’s no secret that, for example, once you’re on a PIP you generally should be looking for a new job as you aren’t meant to ever move past it. This is common industry advice and has been for decades
If only that were true. Some people never experience consequences and so there's nothing for them to learn.
Like yeah, you can die on this hill. But if you really need a job one day because someone in your life is sick and needs caretaking (this is just one example, not a strawman anecdote, life is no joke, thats a causal thing that can easily happen) ... Oh you died on that stupid hill on Linkedin 5 years ago over bullshit right? Because nothing else in life could possibly be more important right?
That's just how I see it. I see children.
Let's say I'm an employer filling a position. I narrow found the candidates to a handful, any one would be fine.
So I start contacting ex-bosses, references, doing Google searches etc. Hmm, one of them has disparaged their employer online. I don't know who was right, and frankly I don't care. I'm never going to think "ah, there's someone we really want - someone who goes online when they don't get what they want."
You can't "protect speech" this away.
If they still don't like that maybe we need to go all the way back to what got us the weekends we love and 40 hour work weeks: blowing up rail bridges and throwing bricks of C4 in police cars.
It blows my mind how thin-skinned businesses are now. Everybody talks about America's golden age from the end of WWII to the Reagan era when America dominated world markets (because we were the only unscathed nation from that conflict, and we had half of money worldwide) but nobody goes back further and I can't help but think that's because American businesses are quite content, contrary to public statements, with trashing campaigns on social media, specifically because consumer revolt doesn't and never has worked. If you want to know what did work, again: coal miners blew up rail bridges, locomotives, destroyed company assets by the ton, and killed thousands of Pinkerton strike breakers and their partners in law enforcement.
Consumer boycott didn't get us weekends. Explosives did.
Businesses have forgotten that the alternative to unionization and peaceful strikes isn’t obedient, underpaid workers. As JFK said, those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.
I don’t endorse violence, but I recognize that it’s what happens if you close off all alternatives. I hope the people who make these choices realize this before it’s too late.
We should at least try actually organizing labor first.
On the note of thin skinned corporations: it’s an outgrowth of the thin skin that corporate leadership has. Executives don’t like accountability or feedback that differs from their worldview. I’ve seen it so much, especially with these workplace surveys where the same issues come up and they never ever implement the proper solution to fix the issues.
Oh for sure. I've already lived through enough historically significant times for my taste, though I suspect the ongoing issues are going to create more of them anyway no matter what I personally want to experience. People are suffering and social media is making it impossible to ignore, and increasingly the younger generations barely have lives worth considering as a loss if they end up the victims of state violence, which increases radicalization and you get more people ready to pick up guns.
> We should at least try actually organizing labor first.
It is good to see so much support for unions in the US again. They got a bad rap for a long time but people are coming back around in a big way now that we've had so many years of corporations basically being the shot callers in our supposedly representative Democracy nation.
> On the note of thin skinned corporations: it’s an outgrowth of the thin skin that corporate leadership has. Executives don’t like accountability or feedback that differs from their worldview. I’ve seen it so much, especially with these workplace surveys where the same issues come up and they never ever implement the proper solution to fix the issues.
Absolutely, and that's been a thing as long as mediocre wealthy people were lording their success over the peasant farmers they owned under feudalism. The noble of whatever land could have any of his subjects murdered at will but that power, while cool, doesn't change the fact that the same lord would probably be dead within a month if he had to live the lives of his subjects. He was always a useless bastard if you took away his money, and every great leap forward for common folks in human history occurred when enough people realized that and decided to take away his money, and possibly his head in the process.
Our modern feudal lords are no different. Mark Zuckerberg is a mediocre college dropout programmer who built a website to rate the looks of his female classmates, and the sole reason he's still (mis)managing Meta is that he's institutionally unable to be fired for his incredibly poor performance at that job. Elon Musk has never done anything in his life that wasn't solely at the behest of the fortunes he was given (loaned, what the fuck ever) from his father. His only marketable skill is writing checks and the abysmal failure of the Cybertruck is a monument to his hubris. Tons of CEOs all over tech now aren't the people who actually built any of it, nor understand it, but are pure business graduates who's only ideas involve playing with fake numbers on spreadsheets to continue fooling Wall Street into thinking they can just grow forever, despite on how-on-it's-face ridiculous that is as a concept.
This place acts like the center of the hacker universe. It has the name and everything. And it’s run by a finance company.
I talk shit about VC constantly here and I haven't been banned for it.
And you know what else spreads like wildfire? Wildfires, that are going to keep getting worse year over year because our economy is destroying the planet.
"Going public" is counter-productive if you are in a good faith organization that values feedback.
If you are in an organization that doesn't value your feedback then your feedback is irrelevant. Going public just makes it harder for you to get a job elsewhere.
Look, we've all had bad bosses and crappy managers. This isn't some surprising revelation. When you bad-mouth an ex employer in an interview, or in public, the next employer is wondering "what will you say about me to the next guy?"
Past behavior is an excellent predictor of future behavior. And when an employee shows you their approach to solving interpersonal issues, believe them.
- Is the employee including enough information and examples, and are those specific and strong enough, to communicate the toxic behavior?
- Does the employee strip out emotion from their post?
If yes, it tends to be well received. I.e. "Yes, that is shitty behavior that shouldn't happen in a workplace"
That's the difference between spotlighting and venting.
The former highlights something that objectively exists; the latter is more about you.
I blame it on movies and TV.
It is a flaw in the system, given the prevalence unchecked.
If we're using legal slavery as an example, countries that abolished slavery early ended up being more productive because employees actually want to work/innovate/create quality goods. By hiring slaves or treating your employees like crap, you're voluntarily specializing in the low-end of whatever market you're in, because your employees don't care about the product.
That's rarely the most profitable move unless you have a monopoly or a commodity good, like the examples you've provided.
We're doing this experiment right now in Canada by importing millions of temporary foreign workers/international students to work in slave-like conditions. If ruthless toxic slavery worked, we should be making more money. In reality, our GDP/capita has dropped continuously since 2019 indicating we're actually less profitable per person.