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MS's web socket solution is called signalr.

It is also fire and forget with fall over to http if web sockets aren't available. I believe if web sockets don't work it can fall over to http long polling instead, but don't quote me on that.

All the downsides of web sockets mentioned in the article are handled for you. Plus you can re-use your existing auth solution. Easily plug logging stuff in, etc. etc. Literally all the problems mentioned by the author are dealt with.

Given the author mentions C# is part of their stack I don't know why they didn't mention signalr or use that instead of rolling their own solution.

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>Given the author mentions C# is part of their stack I don't know why they didn't mention signalr or use that instead of rolling their own solution.

Not saying this is why but SignalR is notoriously buggy. I've never seen a real production instance that didn't have issues. I say that as someone who probably did one of the first real world, large scale roll outs of SignalR about a decade ago.

We use it in a production system on the aspnetcore stack, and it's been bulletproof for a number of years.

We have lots of proxies in the way, and old tech on certain networks, and at this moment we are 97% websockets, 2% server side events, 1% long polling, and it's all transparent to me, brilliant.

I believe it's changed alot since then? I was abit cynical of it from that initial experience but recent usage of it made it seem reliable and scalable.

To further clarify, I believe Blazor uses SignalR under-the-hood when doing server-side rendering. So the direct answer is probably "this is similar to a component used in Blazor"

Edit: Whoops, I lost context here. Phoenix LiveView as a whole is probably pretty analogous to Blazor.

You are correct.

I am using Blazor Server, and for some reason a server is not allowing Web Socket connections(troubleshooting this) and the app switches to long polling as fallback.

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