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Please anyone in hardware: come up with a TV brand that features no built-in internet connectivity whatsoever.

We’d all buy it in a blink.

It’s also kinda urgent. I’m clinging onto my 2007 TV because I don’t want a smart TV. Not sure how long it will last.

Here's a dumb 43 inch screen. It's sold as a gamer monitor. It's a UHD TV display with HDMI in and no onboard smarts.[1]

Here's another Samsung dumb screen, at 55 inches.[2] This is supposed to be for digital signage, but it's really a UHD monitor with HDMI in. But the next size up has "Alexa built in".

Sceptre, which mostly supplies Walmart, has a whole line of dumb TVs, including some big ones.[3] They're a little company in City of Industry, CA, which seems to have found their niche in dumb TVs.

There are lots of "digital signage" displays available. They're usually very bright, reasonably rugged, OK for 24/7 operation, immune to burn-in (they may spend their whole working life displaying mostly the same fast food menu), but not that good

[1] https://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung-m70d-43-led-4k-uhd-60hz...

[2] https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08651PB1J

[3] https://www.sceptre.com/TV/4K-UHD-TV/U750CV-UMRD-75-4K-UHD-T...

I raise Sceptre every time I see this sentiment, but folks just don't seem to know about them. I got a humble 54" 4k from them a couple of years back for a few hundred bucks. Used it every day since, works great. Zero bullshit.

Slow startup, though. Can be like 10-15 seconds.

Sceptre's TVs don't seem to support 120 Hz or variable refresh rate yet, only their smaller monitors, so they're not a good fit for anybody with a current-generation video game console.

Sceptre exists on paper but they’re almost always “sold out”

Last time I tried to find a Sceptre, the only things in stock were models that were several years old, with features comparable to TVs that were even older.

So you're saying that Sceptre is the way to go?

By "features" I meant panel features; they were 60Hz panels with no HDR and so-so contrast ratios.

Their monitors have the same startup time issue which is a pain if you need to access the boot menu.

There are always many hundreds of options for "dumb TVs", the secret being that they're called "commercial [TVs|monitors|displays]". For example, B&H lists 2,105 so-called commercial displays as I type this (which you can easily filter to your specifications).

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?q=commercial%20display

I thought their size filter was missing the . but you really can get a 589" display there.

Good to see these have added multiple HDMI ports since I last looked.

Get a short throw projector. You can plug anything into it. It’s the perfect “dumb” screen.

I would totally buy it.

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