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Which service do you recommend as alternative?

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FastMail, Dropbox, Apple iCloud (Photos, Keychain, etc)

+1 for fastmail, it has built-in backup mechanisms.

Would definitely not recommend ecosystems. They can and do lock you out and you have more to lose.

I’m able to get ahold of a human for support with all products I mentioned. I’m unable to get ahold of a human at Google ever for any of their consumer offerings. I see lots of HN threads begging for Google support, I see no HN threads begging for support from any of the companies I listed.

You should always have backups, regardless of provider.

Fastmail. But you have to pay.

Paying is fine. Makes me the customer, not the product. Was just wondering which alternatives were worth considering :) thanks

Proton.

100 percent use proton!

postale.io

Requires your own domain.

I am very happy with Apple and iCloud, seriously. I've got plenty of cloud space for a fair price, it integrates seamlessly with Apple devices, ships with a password manager, you can hide your mail addresses, and other goodies. I've never had a problem with it.

There are similar stories with Apple: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38625875

Do you or someone else know if Fastmail is any better? If I buy a Fastmail email, what protections exist that would stop them from accidentally or arbitrarily locking me out?

And note, I don't live in the US. I'm wondering about this question from a global perspective.

1. Use your own domain, to have a migration path out when needed.

2. Use JMAP/IMAP or https://www.fastmail.help/hc/en-us/articles/360060590573-Dow... and keep a copy of all your mail locally.

Last time I went to France, Apple locked my iCloud for the duration until I could get back and login from a USA IP address. They even cancelled my Apple Card. And France is not exactly a suspicious destination, and I go there 4 times every year. I don't think Apple account abuse systems work better than Google's.

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