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No, o1 is definitely not good enough to replace employees.

The reason we're launching o1 pro is that we have a small slice of power users who want max usage and max intelligence, and this is just a way to supply that option without making them resort to annoying workarounds like buying 10 accounts and rotating through their rate limits. Really it's just an option for those who'd want it; definitely not trying to push a super expensive subscription onto anyone who wouldn't get value from it.

(I work at OpenAI, but I am not involved in o1 pro)

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I wish the second paragraph was the launch announcement

My 3rd day intern still couldn't do a script o1-preview could do in less than 25 prompts.

OBVIOUSLY a smart OAI employee wouldn't want the public to think they are already replacing high-level humans.

And OBVIOUSLY OAI senior management will want to try to convince AI engineers that might have 2nd-guessings about their work that they aren't developing a replacement for human beings.

But they are.

> 25 prompts

Interested to learn more, is that the usual break even point?

25 prompts is the daily limit on o1-preview. And I wrote that script in just one day.

Good enough to replace very junior employees.

But, then again, how companies going to get senior employees if the world stops producing juniors?

Indeed, I'm very concerned about this. Though i think it's a case of tragedy of the commons. Every company individually optimizes for themselves, fucking us over in the aggregate. But I think any executive arguing for this would have to be a pretty big company with an internal pipeline and promoting within to justify it, especially since everyone else will just poach your cultivated talent, and employees aren't loyal anymore (nor should they be, but that's a different discussion).

Maybe someone at OAI should have considered the optics of leading the "12 days of product releases" with this, then.

> The reason we're launching o1 pro is that we have a small slice of power users who want max usage and max intelligence

I'd settle for knowing what level of usage and intelligence I'm getting instead of feeling gaslighted with models seemingly varying in capabilities depending on the time of day, number of days since release and whatnot

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Yeah, to be fair, there exist employees (some of whom are managers) who could not be replaced and their absence would improve productivity. So the bar for “can this replace any employees at all?” is potentially so low that, technically, cat’ing from /dev/null can clear it, if you must have a computerized solution.

Companies won’t be able to figure those cases out, though, because if they could they’d already have gotten rid of those folks and replaced them with nothing.

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