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If you're not willing to engage in discussion, why are you here?

We are engaging in discussion.. I don't know that OP's comment, with their snarky confrontational tone and demands, is what I would call "discussion"..

I guess I expect a level of civility in my discussions.

Telling someone to educate themselves and that they can just google whatever thing you're talking about is about as uncivil as you can get before openly insulting them.

We can agree to disagree then.

When someone comes around demanding that others provide them with information they can easily look up themselves, I don't see the problem in countering that with a politely-worded retort reminding them that they have agency in their own education.

I even pointed them in the right direction with some suggestions.

How would you have handled it?

I would have linked them directly to that easily available evidence, checking to make sure that I choose the strongest examples of me being correct. This isn't a high bar, and if you keep alluding to things without even naming them of course people are going to demand you make them legible. Going around demanding people take your word as gospel then getting offended when they ask not even for sources but examples is completely unacceptable to me and evidently enough of HN for your comment to be flagged and removed.

That's fair.. I wasn't the original poster (nor was I offended by the request - see below for my own self-reflection), but I see your point for sure.

I'll admit that I can be guilty of speaking from personal authority/experience in forums and not feeling the need to provide references, because it's just a forum on the Internet and there's a limit to the effort I'm going to put into a discussion with strangers, but the other side of that is valid and there's nothing wrong with asking for receipts if you're skeptical...

In the end I am realizing I mostly took exception to the tone of the other person (not the demand itself), and that's on me.. I should have just ignored him and moved on. Not everyone knows how to communicate properly.. Even now he's responding to my other comments (and even jumped into this thread) to antagonize further.. oh well.

> When someone comes around demanding that others provide them with information they can easily look up

TIL 'please give examples/evidence' === demanding.

You're so dishonest and insecure it's hilarious.

I asked for a very specific thing, not 'regulations that impact youtube'. The fact that you're telling me about your little search engine adventure without actually sharing a single link/specific regulation, says a lot.

> these regulatory restrictions which supposedly force this kind of behavior from Google

The above was your first post...

> I asked for a very specific thing, not 'regulations that impact youtube'.

My apologies then for misunderstanding, that's how I interpreted your initial request. Can you explain the difference then?

I suggested a path for you to educate yourself, again pointing out that resources are available to you so you can learn things for yourself without demanding them from others.

Anyways, based on this latest comment and your other comments in this thread, you really come across as looking to pick a fight.. You're very confrontational.

Perhaps something to reflect on..

> Can you explain the difference then?

Do you really need me to explain the difference between'specific regulations that force YouTube to take this specific action' vs 'regulations that may affect youtube'?

> I suggested a path for you to educate yourself, again pointing out that resources are available to you so you can learn things for yourself without demanding them from others.

Wow thank you for the amazing suggestions and letting me know that search engines exist! Apparently it wasn't enough for you to be able to answer the question asked though, and the only thing you were able to contribute was this passive aggressive tale about how you tried to Google something.

By the way - when someone claims that there are certain regulations behind decisions/actions it's totally okay to ask what those specific regulations are. Your little tantrum adds absolutely nothing to the conversation, and this hilarious comment of yours trying to explain away this tantrum only serves to underline the fact that you're not even trying to have an honest/sincere conversation.

I'm not sure you know what the word "tantrum" means, but that's fine.

I'll reiterate that your immature and snarky tone does you no favours in terms of having a discourse, and again I encourage you to reconsider how you engage with others here.

Do you talk like this to people in the real world?

Maybe consider the fact that multiple people called you out for being rude and contributing nothing to the conversation, and the fact that your silly tantrum was flagged and removed, before you go around critiqueing other people's 'tone'.

Learn to have an honest conversation, without being rude, before you give others advice.

You're insecure and you're projecting, and it's obvious.

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