The zoology and biochemistry of xenomorphs from the Alien franchise
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Thus, the seed of the xenomorph, the “black goo” (Chemical A0-3959X.91–15)
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The whole thing is basically the engineer version of a nuke, rendering planets permanently hostile to other life forms and destroying civilizations by transporting the weapon inside its members - and thus following trade-routes.
I still have to watch the prequels after "Prometheus", but that prequel was one of my favorites in the series, and your comment makes me want to go watch them.
Regarding cannon vs canon, the way I remember it is that "you need a double-n for a cannon to be double-barrelled." I have no idea whether that's useful to anyone else.
Etymologically, they are both related to "cane", so it's pretty much a historical accident that we now spell them differently to each other, or that it's not the other way around.
It differs a bit in intent though: Its eldritch designers seem to have intended it as a high-reliability remote construction drone.
"Xenomorph" is not any sort of official in-universe term for these things, though I believe Alien: Romulus at least does have scientists calling it "xenomorph <some number>" indicating it has been catalogued. Xenomorph is just a generic term for a non-humanoid alien, though, what PFC Hudson called a "bug" when the term was introduced as Lt Gorman was briefing the other Marines about what they might expect. This wasn't their first time encountering hostile life and they called a lot of it by this name.
The xenomorphs (as fans have taking to calling it) are not silicon-based, but rather some blend of organic and inorganic. They're bioengineered superweapons, not naturally occurring. As far as we can tell, they don't eat at all, at least in their adult form, as they grow to full size in a matter of hours without us ever seeing them consume anything. They only seem to need hosts in their larval form. This is also why they mostly don't kill the humans they attack unless they have to because they're under threat. They instead attach them to a resin they secrete, where they are used as incubators for more larval forms. Their entire purpose seems to boil down to multiplying as rapidly as possible. I believe Ridley Scott has suggested they consume electricity or radiation in general directly, rather than extracting energy from food.
They were not actually created by the "engineers," as Shaw from Prometheus called the space jockey guys. They were created by David, the first synthetic sentient android created by Weyland, when he and Shaw hijacked an engineer ship. He returned to their home world, released the black goo and killed everything, and experiments with its ability to create multistage lifecycle semi-organic lifeforms, which he eventually managed to turn into the xenomorph as it was seen in the original Alien.
The black goo itself seems to have been some sort of quasi-religious experiment thing the engineers developed billions of years ago that has the ability to dissolve organic matter, attach itself to DNA, and rewrite it to become some kind of more "advanced" lifeform. The beginning of Prometheus shows them doing this on earth, with a sacrificial engineer dissolving himself into primordial water to seed what would eventually become all earth life. This doesn't imply earth-life is genetically similar to the xenomorph, but rather to the engineers, who were humanoid. So Ridley Scott (or Damon Lindelof or whoever) is implying earth life was meant to eventually become humanoid all along, like we're the ultimate end of an experiment in engineered evolution.
However, back on their home planet, they didn't just stop doing new things for four billion years. The black goo of the present in Prometheus was similar to the original used to seed earth, but seemingly had changed at that point and specifically created more xenomorph-like things, now by infecting other lifeforms and incubating in them, rather than dissolving them into free-floating DNA.
All of that addresses whether xenomorphs are "related" in any biological sense to life on earth, but either way, I'm not convinced arthropods are the right analogy. The reality of their size and movement is obviously confounded by the fact they're played by humans wearing costumes, but I'd be surprised if they didn't have endoskeletons. Ridley Scott has stated the original intention of the creature design was to invoke armor. They're insect-like in appearance, but arthropod exoskeletons are not really armor. In fact, arthropods very rarely grow as large as humans, with the only examples all being extinct, and they had paper-thin exoskeletons, in part because molting something that large is difficult and expensive. To me, I think they're more similar to certain types of dinosaurs with hardened exterior armor. That said, they are clearly shown molting, but the fact they have claws and teeth seems to suggest they probably also have bones. I suspect this is mostly just confusion on the part of the designers or the simple fact they aren't really trying to make something that is biologically coherent or plausible so much as a nightmare made flesh.
I don't think it's ever made clear what the engineers were trying to do. The timelines are a little jacked up, but the derelict the Prometheus crew discovers can't be the same one discovered later by the Nostromo, because the one of the Nostromo has actual fully-realized xenomorphs, which the narrative eventually makes clear were created by David after the events of Prometheus. The derelict in that case was simply carrying black goo, but a weaponized version, and carrying it to earth, apparently intending to destroy all life there. Why is never explained, nor does it seem to be the case that this was some civilization-wide decision, since the mission failed and no follow-on was ever launched. This could have been some rogue faction that weaponized black goo and attempted to destroy life that had earlier been created by the non-weaponized older version out of disagreement with the larger historical goals of their own people.
Weyland-Yutani corps by the time of the mainline films seems to not understand what they are dealing with. They understand they have found some substance that can meld with organic life and create a stronger version of it that doesn't need food and can survive in a vacuum. Romulus seems to suggest that the goal at that point was to create a race of hybrid mine workers that would survive the harsh conditions better than humans. They don't seem to have ever realized that David had created the xenomorphs as they existed at that point and his goal was not to create better humans but to destroy all other life completely and replace it with xenomorphs.
Considering all I've written to this point, I'm amazed at how silly the mythology of this series eventually got after starting as a simple great horror flick that needed no explanation or backstory.
Some things are better left unexplained! There's more mystery in mystery.
I don't mean to nitpick there, it's more a comment on continuity in multiple movies.
I'm an old school Aliens appreciator; I recognize as canon Alien and Aliens, and the Dark Horse comics of the early 90s (80s?). It's easier on my old brain than juggling plots from 20 different people.
The technology of the ship user interfaces in Prometheus and Alien: Covenant seems much higher tech than what is presented in Alien Romulus. Alien gets a pass because it was made in 1979.
So David makes the Xenomorphs and then David uses the colonist and human embryos for further experimentation? So are the events of Alien a trap by David?
In his briefing (about 23 minutes in in the Disney+ version of Aliens), Gorman says “all we know is there is still no contact with the colony, and a xenomorph may be involved.”
We see the skull of one on the predators' ship in Predator 2 (set in 1997). And Alien vs. Predator was set in 2004.
The whole business with David wasn't until 2091 or so.
This is already wrong! Animalia is an Earth kingdom, and the Xenomorphs clearly aren't an Earth life-form.
> Xenomorphs can be included into the Arthropoda phylum due to the morphological similarities shared with certain terrestrial arthropods such as an exoskeletal structure, a segmented body plan, the presence of hemolymph, etc.
Again, no! They're not an Earth life-form. Just because they superficially resemble some arthropods in some features doesn't make them an arthropod! You might as well say that a train is an arthropod - exoskeletal structure, segmented body plan, the presence of hemolymph...
Has biology even bothered to come up with a name for that level of taxon, or would it be premature? I know that in recent years they've been quibbling about both what the top-level (Earth top-level) taxon should be, and what the specific ones would even be for it, but I've never heard of a scheme that embiggens it to alien life. If they ever did so, would there even be the same number of sub-taxons for it for any given planet?
And what in the hell do we do if we discover one of those on Earth? There's no reason to be certain that life only abiogenically manifested once on Earth is there?
Things evolve into crabs all the time
I don’t know if we specially have a word for that form of mistake in the tree. I’m under the impression we just fix the tree as we go.
Is it if the engineers seeded earth with life?
Never mind that xenomorphs aren't even carbon-based.
At this point, it’s clear that yes we can say whatever fantasy we want, but that is not going to instantly override the precise preponderant meaning it has gained in the community most interested and knowledgeable in the topic.
All that said, I’m not a biologist, and given the honesty I show with such a disclaimer, you know you can blindly trust me on all the topics I’m barely conscious about, right? So trust me xenomorphs are actually adorable cute cuddly pets. Don’t believe all you see in your nightmarish block busters.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanzee
It’s possible it was actually going to happen if not disrupted in China during the cultural revolution
That seems to apply to the Star Trek one, which going by the lore seems to be more of an artificially maintained rotten stump that had any potential for divergent/adaptive growth preemptively cut.
The Star Wars lore you link only seems to talk about empires that made contact with multiple species and might have helped spread them over a hundred thousand year span. It does not seem to mention a single point of origin or an artificially crippled evolution that would enforce parallel development.
"How can Vulcans mate with Humans" doesn't need to be explained if the compelling part of the story is "how does the child of a human and Vulcan navigate both worlds and what does that tell us about ourselves." Of course, you could write a story where a shared or divergent biological/geological past was a part of the metaphor/allegory - but Star Trek doesn't need that.
And if Star Wars replaced the "galaxy" part of that sentence with "kingdom" and all the space ships with wooden ones no one would even need to ask the question, because Star Wars is as much fantasy as science fiction.
There are certainly some creatives who go that far, but I personally take issue with the necessity of detail and depth in scifi worldbuilding. It's really a recent phenomenon that audiences expect so much out of creators and I think it hurts the stories we tell.
And yes, "just because they superficially resemble some arthropods in some features doesn't make them an arthropod".. but at the very beginning they point out they cannot use DNA sequences to help classify, so they are only using known physical characteristics.
Haven’t seen the new one*
Then he apparently did it again with Covenant: I haven't seen this one yet, but what I've read says he didn't really learn his lesson from Prometheus, and made another great-looking movie with high production values and a poor script. So I haven't been in a hurry to see it.
Romulus seems to have good reviews so far, and a different director, so I'd like to give it a chance. I just haven't had a chance to see it yet, but it is high on my list of films to watch soon, along with the new Quiet Place movie.
I took it as a meta-commentary on how humanity degrades with time. ("Idiocracy"-style.) Remember these clowns were supposed to be the cream of Earth's human crop.
If humanity was really degrading with time, they wouldn't be able to build such fantastic FTL spaceships, robotic surgery pods, etc.
I watched Romulus recently and its kind of just a fan service film with a few utterly ridiculous sequences. The only things that really offended me where the heavy nerfing of facehuggers and the controversial CGI character who looked bad. Mostly it was just kind of forgettable but started out pretty good.
The xenomorphs are not silicon-based.
In Alien, Ash (the android) notes that the facehugger utilizes utilize silicon-based processes to replace its outer layer...he specifically calls out the "interesting combination of elements". [1] It wouldn't be necessary to call out the use of silicon for the outer layer if the entire organism was silicon-based.
Also, it's clear that the xenomorphs utilize carbon-based food to grow baby xenos. In Alien, the host complains of starving before the baby pops out of his chest. Moreover, humans lack sufficient quantities of silicon for a baby xeno to grow in a human. In David's lab (Alien: Covenant), David's notes and experiments also indicate a duality to the creatures, and also that they are not strictly organic lifeforms, but are a fusion of organic and non-organic life...which is part of his fascination with them.
[1] In the novelization of Alien, Ash goes even further, stating that they facehugger is both carbon-based and silicon-based.
Honestly, same
I don't understand the logic of this argument. If Xenomorph has evolved on a different planet, it will surely not have the same common ancestor as Animalia, let alone Arthropoda. Why would anyone classify it under those taxons?
P.S.: Ah, I see this has already been commented on: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42297139
Should be something like Gigeroids.
Xenomorph sounds way cooler. That's what's important in a movie/toy franchise.
In "Aliens", when Hudson (or was it Hicks?) asks, "is this another bug hunt?" the lieutenant says, (paraphrasing) "there may be a xenomorph involved".
I interpret this to mean that
(a) The marines have previously fought alien creatures of some kind (and they had no problem dealing with them).
(b) They used the term "xenomorph" to mean any alien creature--not specifically the titular alien, which they had never before encountered.
So I agree. Calling it "the Xenomorph" is a misunderstanding. At best it's like calling something "the Beast", or calling all ships of a certain size "dreadnoughts".
I really like your point about the Marines having fought/hunted/exterminated other "bugs". It casts their bravado in a different light. Even after seeing catastrophic damage from "acid for blood", the Marines are still very confident, which after beating other alien species, makes perfect sense. It's only when they get into the nest do they start getting scared.
It's a great scene.