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Mark Cuban posted about another way that Bluesky engagement is better, in terms of on-platform replies

https://bsky.app/profile/mcuban.bsky.social/post/3lbx7p3vdgs...

There is a general vibe of mute/block, don't engage with trolls, in the hopes we don't end up with the same toxicity found on other platforms, or as Kelsey Hightower put it

"What pushed me off X was just watching good people behave badly" [1]

[1] https://www.siliconrepublic.com/enterprise/kelsey-hightower-...

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I think this is the same vibe that keeps HN going. We all collectively want to have place with high signal-to-noise. Of course moderation plays a part here as well. But I also self-moderate, deleting my own comments a minute after posting them if, seeing them in place, they seem too stupid.

I just don’t know that a place like HN could keep its standards without a place like Reddit; and I’m worried that Bluesky may need the troll haven of Twitter to keep existing, so Bluesky can keep its place for better behaved discourse.

Maybe it’s an eternal question for social media: which September will be the September that never ends?

> But I also self-moderate, deleting my own comments a minute after posting them if, seeing them in place, they seem too stupid.

I thought it was just me doing that.

I need to do it more. :(

Same here! I do appreciate the vibe at HN and I want to keep it.

> I just don’t know that a place like HN could keep its standards without a place like Reddit

Yeah. A year or two after the first version of Ubuntu was released, someone on a Debian mailing list complained that Ubuntu didn't deserve the attention it was getting. A long-time Debian user or developer replied and said Ubuntu was the best thing to happen to Debian in years because Ubuntu was Debian's idiot filter. I didn't fully realize how true that was until I watched the Arch Linux community receive a huge influx of Ubuntu refugees who seemed to be switching to Arch solely to participate in the Arch subreddit's meme culture.

Mute/Block works fine for me on X. I happen to like variety, not an echo chamber. I block the ignorant tails on either side.

Which sides are you referring to?

Ok thats nice and all, but 'a general vibe' doesn't survive actual incentives.

Who's to say incentives cannot change?

People are leaving other platforms because of toxicity, their incentive is to find a place without it and keep it that way.

The moderation design means it will be easier to widely block trolls, meaning the effort can be collective instead of repeated by every user

The fresh start means this is not a sisyphean task

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