I've have a lite ghisallo frame which I think was under 2lbs. The whole bike is under 15lbs and still manages to carry my 200lbs of weight.
I've have a lite ghisallo frame which I think was under 2lbs. The whole bike is under 15lbs and still manages to carry my 200lbs of weight.
I'm less convinced. Firstly, I'm not convinced by the frame flex theory of ride comfort - I believe that the tyres are by far the biggest contribution to ride comfort due to the amount that they can flex which is far more than the tiny amount that the frame can.
Secondly, aerodynamics is far more important (if you care about speed/effort) and titanium is tricky to get into highly tailored shapes unless you resort to fancy 3d-printed frames.
Carbon would be my choice due to the design flexibility - by orienting the carbon fibres differently, components can provide strength/stiffness in one direction whilst allowing for compliance in other directions. Also the shape can be relatively easily changed - no need to always use circular tubes.
It'd be interesting to see a 3d-printed titanium frame that uses some kind of honeycomb internal structure to provide super strong/light frames, but I suspect it would be exorbitantly expensive.
However, you might find this interesting -- No. 22 bicycles has a (very expensive, prototype) titanium aero bike: https://22bicycles.com/products/reactor-aero . It hasn't actually seen a wind tunnel but at least it looks like an aero bike and they're talking about putting it in one. It is made using 3d printing (additive manufacturing) at least in part.
> Pricing for the final production version has not yet been finalized, but we anticipate a frameset (frame, fork and headset) price in the range of USD $10,000 to $15,000.
For titanium, I'm seeing Black Friday deals starting at like, $3200-3500 (Lynskey / Litespeed). But they're often sold at higher prices than carbon bikes. (For my money, I prefer carbon frames -- you get more flexibility in tube shapes and the end result can be lighter and stronger than titanium.)
Yeah, they can do it, but they'll be a little heavier than those relatively light rim brake steel bikes linked earlier. (The rotors/calipers, hydraulic, fluid, stronger fork leg required all just add mass.)
I'm also in Seattle! Disc brakes all day.
The specific 2000EUR figure might be European pricing. The lowest I'm seeing for any carbon road bike from e.g. Specialized with US pricing is $2400 for a two generation old Tarmac SL6 (this generation was current 2019-2021) or $2800 for a current Roubaix. The least expensive carbon road bike offering from Giant is $3300 US (TCR or Defy). (Though I'd expect to be able to find better deals at retailers trying to move old inventory than direct from the manufacturers.)
https://www.bike24.com/road-bikes.html?dynamicAttributes%5B2...
This bike isn't even on sale and it's under $4k and not a bad bike: https://www.giant-bicycles.com/us/tcr-advanced-2-pc-2025
10-speeds are most common, so you have to be ok with that; although some vintage bikes did have 3 chain rings. Older road bikes tend to have narrow tires, because everybody thought they were faster; 1/4" tires are workable on unpaved mixed use trails, but 1/8" will be pushed around easily by tree roots and ruts.
You would need enough force for the tires, wheels, saddle, handlebar, stem and seatposts to break/explose before the double triangle start flexing.