> What I meant is that Ukraine is putting up a fight against an aggressor is doing unbelievably, and the west while helping isn't helping nearly as much as it should.

I hear a lot this:

- Either we should invest our full energy in coming to peace, whatever it costs, because the main goal is to save lives and keep the peace

- Or we go and support Ukraine with NATO and forces the War to an end

What we do today is none of both, like "almost 0 diplomacy" and giving weapons and support in the bare minimum, not committing to any position, is pretty bad to the civilians and soldiers in Ukraine.

Something that I never expected to hear and see: In Germany the Green Chanceler candidate, Robert Habeck, trying to score in the upcoming election, saying that he would deliver Taurus to Ukraine: https://www.zeit.de/politik/ausland/2024-11/ukraine-krieg-ro...