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M4 MacBook Pro Uses Quantum Dot Display Technology

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MicroLED not here [1], NanoRod OLED gone [2], QDEL not any time soon, QD Film ( used here ) isn't getting any better.

I guess we have to stick to OLED for quite some time. I still dont think Tandem OLED is the solution for PC. Especially not when I have the monitor turned on for 16 hours per day and uses it most days of the year.

I wonder if MacBook Pro will stick to LCD. While something like MacBook Air could switch to OLED just to be thinner.

[1] For small display, for TV and signage they seems to be doing fine.

[2] Samsung has reportedly given up on the idea. LG stopped R&D as well.

With respect, OLED wearout from 16x365 use is a 'you problem'. The manufacturers will be delighted to sell you a new €1200 monitor every 4-5 years, and I'm sure their shareholders would support the improved revenue stream. Masses of consumers with their wallets is the only opposing force, and that assumes they will have an alternative available to choose (one day).

I'm not saying this is a good thing, mind, I'm just saying that this is just the sort of rent-seeking we should increasingly expect from the industry. Apple has no significant incentive to make a laptop screen last longer than the warranty period, and all manufacturers will happily pass on substandard performance to consumers as 'normal' and spin it as providing an Insanely Great user experience on new devices. Remember back when you couldn't get an expensive LCD monitor RMA'd even if it had 4-5 dead pixels, because that was 'normal'?

> Apple has no significant incentive to make a laptop screen last longer than the warranty period

It’s not that simple: Macs famously hold their resale value well and many people buy on the assumption that they’ll be able to swap for a newer model after a few years. They’re not beholden to maintain that by a legal contract but that’s the kind of reputation which takes decades to build and Apple doesn’t show signs of wanting to throw it away or dive into the low-margin space.

previously: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42152928

M4 MacBook Pros use a quantum dot (QD) film rather than a red KSF phosphor film (twitter.com/dsccross)

Are the screen more sturdy than on the MacBook Air M1? I really didn't like my M1 dying overnight after 13 months, when the base warranty had just expired and apple asked me 67% (!) of the price of what I paid the M1 to fix the screen. I didn't and I use it as a desktop since then, hooked to an external monitor.

For comparison, my LG Gram can be casually thrown down concrete stairs [1] and shall happily keep working.

I'm not asking for something as incredible as that LG Gram's screen (from a reliability point of view) but I'd like to know if these newer MacBook laptops have screens less fragile than the first M1 laptops.

[1] Not my vid but it's my experience with that laptop. Cat can jump on it, previous owner did step on it while waking up: do that to a Mac M1 laptop and it dies instantly. But my "MILSPEC" LG Gram: you cannot really damage that laptop (look at 35 seconds):

https://youtu.be/herYV5TJ_m8

The deceptive problem with MacBooks is that they look sturdy, but aren't.

my mid-2012 air would like a word.

Yeah I had a mid-2012 macbook pro and it lasted me almost 10 years, as a full time software dev that is. Replaced a fan, a cable and the HD to SSD, and the battery was over, but other than that kept going strong until I was sort of forced to upgrade because a newer iOS OS required a newer XCode required a newer MacOS required a newer laptop.

I have to say it was fun anticipating my new laptop watching the benchmarks and observing like a 10x (multi core) improvement.

2012 was 12 years ago when they were make like bricks and had all the ports and parts were replaceable. Let's see how current MacBooks will hold up in 12 years. I bet they won't be so lucky.

I've dragged multiple MBPs all over the world, they're the sturdiest thing you can get short of a getac or a tough book.

Apple tried that with me when the screen died on my MacBook Pro M1. There is a law in the UK (Consumer Rights Act 2015) that says goods purchased must be fit for purpose for six years. I quoted this to support and they instantly agreed to fix it for free, sent me a box to put it in then collected it. I had it back within 2 weeks fully repaired and working again.

good to know, I didn't know we had such a law. thanks for posting this

Wait, so in UK products come with a six year warranty?

The consumer has a right to replacement or repair for six years after purchase in certain circumstances - see https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/consumer/somethings-gone-w... - any warranty the seller chooses to supply is in addition to this.

I had a MBP mainboard replaced after four(?) years in a generation where the graphics chip was known for dying. Late 2012 maybe? That machine had so many replacement parts, I think it might be a ship of Theseus by this point.

We have similar laws in Australia. There's no point buying AppleCare or any warranty in Australia but they try to sell it anyway. There's no fixed term but it's at least 2-3 years, and often more.

My M1 is still fine after 3 years of usage, being dropped from 1m+ by my cat, and being sat on (while in a backpack though).