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Note that there will not be an official livestream on Youtube. Every time there are some people who fall for scammers pretending to be one and end up listening to an AI impersonation of Elon Musk try to sell them cryptocoins, missing the real launch.

If you must watch on youtube, NSF or Everyday Astronaut typically have good (unofficial) livestreams.

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Considering how long those videos have been allowed on YouTube, you have to wonder...

https://mashable.com/article/fake-elon-musk-crypto-scam-yout...

> Nearly four years ago, Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak actually sued YouTube over Bitcoin scam livestreams that were using his likeness. So, this has clearly been going on for quite a while now. And, unfortunately, it looks like these fake YouTube livestream schemes are going to continue on, at least for the foreseeable future.

I recently reported a bunch of the SpaceX ones that were running for long time. Nothing happened. I think Google/Alphabet is just happy with the extra ad views.

This aspect needs regulation.

I'll often spend a little time while watching the flight-tests (usually with Tim Dodd / EverydayAstronaut) just doing a search on YouTube for 'spacex live' and usually report 15-20 each time. They are very easy to spot when you've seen a few of them. I'll usually get a report of a few being shut down later in the day, and more over the next couple of days.

But, yes, they should be easy for YT to detect & block automatically - it's frustrating they (and other scams) get to stay online so long.

Perhaps your account has more Youtube XP.

> But, yes, they should be easy for YT to detect & block automatically - it's frustrating they (and other scams) get to stay online so long.

It's the Google way. It's impossible until it suddenly isn't.

Break up this monster company and regulate the resulting companies until they behave.

>Break up this monster company and regulate the resulting companies until they behave.

Uh, seen the news lately? Not really going to happen.

How about RICO act? Youtube is clearly and knowingly profiting from a criminal activity.

The Everyday Astronaut was ahead of the SpaceX curated one for Flight 5. It had the weird effect of showing the outcome before the sound of the cheering crowd going crazy when the booster got caught by the chopsticks (which was also audible in the same stream).

Each streamer adds a delay to their stream. This means that any stream forwarded to you by another streamer is going to be delayed.

The delay was between SpaceX recording and uploading an event and Everyday astronaut decoding it at their mixing desk. Their own feeds from their cameras and microphones had less delay than the SpaceX stream did. Everyday astronaut then had another delay between when they encoded this result and you saw it.

If you had opened up the SpaceX stream directly you would have found it was ahead of the stream shown inside Everyday Astronaut.

BTW I was also watching EA's stream.

EA and NSF have their own cameras so they aren't just republishing SpaceX's Twitter stream. But things definitely get out of sync when there are multiple layers of streaming.

Some of the views their cameras get are fantastic - and the tracking on the last flight test would quite possibly make NASA envious. Cameras on the beach and also just next to StarHopper are in harms way too, they've lost a couple of them. I'm not sure what the cost of repair was after a chunk of concrete from what used to be the pad took out the back of a car!

Thank you for the clarification. It's delays all the way down. :)

I was cycling between the "official" stream and EA to try and catch the most-live and I found EA was a couple seconds ahead.

> If you must watch on youtube, NSF or Everyday Astronaut typically have good (unofficial) livestreams.

It amazes me that NASA Space Flight managed to rip off the names of both the National Science Foundation and the National Aeronautics and Space Agency. Their coverage is good but that name is really misleading.

It's ironic given pre-acquisition under every Elon Musk tweet the top replies were always crypto scammers. Hopefully this time YouTube fix the impersonation stream but it was up for a long time during/after the last launch.

I assumed a large portion of YouTube/ Google management had been in a plane crash as that seemed the only plausible explanation for it to stay up as long and have as many viewers as it did. It really was stunning.

Nah, they are just ignoring the damaging effects on individuals and cashing in the ad money.

Suddenly, all those crypto-scam videos seem plausible now that Elon Musk pledged to give away $1 million daily to individuals who sign his political action committee’s petition supporting the First and Second Amendments.

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